My first post on the well respected 'Old Red Guard'...Hello all...As everyone knows on the 'Deck' my family is very close to Scott & Nikki Rolen...& of course I would never discuss them personally....I have to say after reading that he decided to possibly be available but didn't take the offer, I think is the right decision...Scott is the most dedicated athlete I've ever heard of & absolutely loves the game of baseball...He is also the hardest working & one of the finest human beings I've ever met in my 59 yrs of life...I think Frazier will do a good job at third & feel strongly that his strong enthusiastic voice is exactly what this team needs...Scotty is not one to sit in a chair in retirement & my dream is that he would take a possition with the team I've loved since I attended games as a young girl at 'Crosley Field'...I will always love the years I watched him do things at third base that I didn't think was possible....So excited for the season to start!!! Let's do this thing Redlegs!!!
Chip R (02-14-2013),Red in Atl (02-13-2013),_Sir_Charles_ (02-13-2013)
Jeeze Rem, tell us what you really think.
Guys, before we pile on Scott, isn't it possible that maybe the Reds strung Scott along? There's two sides to every story.
As far as we know, Scott and Walt probably talked as soon as the season was over.. maybe they mutually decided to wait and see what came up?
Eventually the Reds got Hannarhan, Donald, minor infield depth which impacted what the Reds really needed. Heck, even Choo impacted the roster design.
So before we trash Scott, let's at least consider the possiblity that maybe the Reds have been giving Scott a "maybe" this whole time. Walt always just said "Well, we're talking and figuring out what to do".
If Scott was truly going after one last payday, he would've signed with LA months ago. Sure, we can speculate on many things, but I doubt Scott was purely motivated by money. My guess is that his heart wanted to come back as a Red one more time.. but a combination of his body wearing down and/or lack of roster space means that he couldn't come back..
Sorry, but it kind of bugs me a bit to see several people on this thread assuming Scott is some kind of drama queen. I don't think that's the case.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Thanks for returning professionalism and a winning attitude to the Reds organization, Scott. I have not had favorite players, but I will always root for a guy who walked the talk on the field AND positively influenced the next generation of ballplayers, both on the field and off.
Which tells me that the evidence for Rem's take on the situation is very unlikely.
Last edited by traderumor; 02-13-2013 at 10:29 AM.
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Red Raindog (02-13-2013)
I've had the reply box open for quite some time trying to articulate how I feel on this issue but I have been unable to because everything seems ranty and childlike.
So I can sum my feelings up by saying that the overall presumption on this board that Scott Rolen held this franchise hostage this offseason and was selfish and all that crap is borderline offensive to me. It angers me.
How in God's Holy Name did Scott Rolen hold this team hostage?
Do you people seriously believe that Rolen and the Reds were not in somewhat consistant contact all winter long?
This winter undid everything good Scott Rolen did in a Cincinnati uniform????? Seriously?????
"Strickland Propane... Taste the meat, not the heat." - Hank Hill
REDREAD (02-13-2013)
This just isn't so.
The Giants had Brandon Belt, Gregor Blanco, and Brandon Crawford in the starting lineup last year in the playoffs. Championship team.
When David Freese won the World Series MVP in 2011,
he had a .791 regular season OPS.
Frazier is still young, he may sink or swim, but he certainly is capable of being a regular on a championship team.
And while Frazier doesn't have Rolen's credentials, he is far more likely to be available on a consistent basis. And he has Hannahan, a good backup, to round out the position.
Third base is fine.
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New Fever (02-13-2013),Revering4Blue (02-13-2013),Screwball (02-15-2013),Tom Servo (02-13-2013)
Seriously, when did Scott Rolen turn into Brett Favre? The Reds had their answer at 3rd base and named him the starter early in the offseason. They also signed Hanrahan. He didn't hold anybody hostage. It's not like the Reds have a hole at 3rd base now that he decided to not come back.
I truly believe the best thing for the Reds would have been if Rolen came back and accepted a bench role. He's better than almost anyone the Reds currently have on the bench. I can understand why he wouldn't want to come back to ride the pine poney, though.
Fact: at the end of the season, Rolen was a free agent.
Fact: the Reds let it be known they were open to him returning.
Fact: the Dodgers were also interested and made inquiries.
Conjecture: At least on my part... Rolen played most of last year injured, in fact most of the last two years. Does anyone think he wanted to wait as long as possible to see how his body felt before hitting ST? Also, in his statement he doesn't say retired. Perhaps he would prefer a Pedro/Oswalt like half season allowing his body to recuperate and get stronger.
I don't think he is stringing anyone along, just coming to grips with age, health, economic and familial realities.
just my two cents.
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