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    Arroyo Reds HOF?

    i know its premature with at least one season left to pitch but these paragraphs really say a lot....and wow...he's the oldest person on the team at 36? I forget how young this team really is.

    "Over his career, Arroyo has never been on the disabled list, nor missed a start. In every season since 2005, he's made at least 32 starts. His 233 starts since his 2006 trade from Boston to Cincinnati for Wily Mo Pena leads the National League. In 2010, he won a National League Gold Glove Award.

    In seven of the past eight seasons, Arroyo has reached 200 innings. The one year he didn't was 2011 when he threw 199, and that was the year he was plagued by mononucleosis and a sore back"

    the man has been a horse for this team.....in good times and bad. I know a lot of people don't because of whatever reasons.....I like Bronson...glad he's been with the team

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    Re: Arroyo Reds HOF?

    If we win a WS with him on the team and contributing, yes.

    If not, probably not.

    the man has been a horse for this team.....in good times and bad. I know a lot of people don't because of whatever reasons.....I like Bronson...glad he's been with the team
    Most definitely. In hindsight, he was a huge pickup for us. I absolutely HATED that trade then, mostly because I hated his stupid cornrows.

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    Re: Arroyo Reds HOF?

    I'd say yes, and an easy choice at that for me.

    5 years ago I would have thought I'd be crazy for saying this, but Arroyo has risen above Harang on the totem pole of Reds starters.

    Go back 25 years. (1988-present) Who are the starters that have had decent success for over 5 years for the Reds?

    Off the top of my head...Rijo, Harang, Arroyo, and Cueto.

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    Re: Arroyo Reds HOF?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post

    Go back 25 years. (1988-present) Who are the starters that have had decent success for over 5 years for the Reds?

    Off the top of my head...Rijo, Harang, Arroyo, and Cueto.
    Rijo was awesome. Harang really only had three or four really good years, he followed those up with a league leading 17 losses, and Cueto although being on the roster 5 years, really only blossomed the last three. So going back to the end of Mario Soto's career the best five-year pitchers the Reds have had are easily Rijo and Arroyo.

    Yes, I think Bronson is a Reds Hall of Famer. No, I don't think it's close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I'd say yes, and an easy choice at that for me.

    5 years ago I would have thought I'd be crazy for saying this, but Arroyo has risen above Harang on the totem pole of Reds starters.

    Go back 25 years. (1988-present) Who are the starters that have had decent success for over 5 years for the Reds?

    Off the top of my head...Rijo, Harang, Arroyo, and Cueto.
    I'd add Browning to your list. But, yes I agree Arroyo is among the top 5 starters for certain in the last 25 yrs. Heck I'd even narrow it to those with success for 3 consecutive years and he'd be on the list.

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    He is in. Love his honesty in saying Chapman should stay in the bullpen. Also, how many pitchers do a TV interview after they LOSE a game? A stand up guy for sure. I wonder if he would consider pitching in the WBC?
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    I wondered how Bronson compares to other Reds HOF pitchers. I figured the best stat for measuring longevity, success, and value to the team is the old Wins stat.

    Bronson is currently 22nd on the list of Reds wins (at 91). Of the 21 ahead of him, 19 of them are in the Reds HOF. Only Fred Dwyer (133) and Billy Rhines (96) have been overlooked among this group. Bronson has already passed Seaver, Billingham, Norman and other HOFers. Barring injury, Bronson will pass Rhines as well as Rijo (97) and Soto (100) in wins this year. I'd say he's a lock. Makes me wonder what Dwyer did to piss the voters off.

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    Re: Arroyo Reds HOF?

    I mean its the Reds hof so id say yes

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    Re: Arroyo Reds HOF?

    Quote Originally Posted by R_Webb18 View Post
    I mean its the Reds hof so id say yes
    Hey now, it's nothing to sneeze at. We've got greats. Arroyo has been a workhorse, and if he can help us get a ring I think it's a no brainer. Otherwise I'm doubtful. His number haven't been stellar enough.
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    Re: Arroyo Reds HOF?

    Reds HOF, yes. The Reds haven't had too many better pitchers in the last 20 years. He's done everything you have asked of him. If he can help them get to World Series it will be an even more easy vote for him.
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    Re: Arroyo Reds HOF?

    Yes, if only because I still listed to Red Hooded Sweatshirt on loop and crack up every time.

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    Re: Arroyo Reds HOF?

    In all seriousness though, the guy is definitely a Reds HOFer. One of the few bright spots from 2006-2010, and a fun guy to cheer for

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    Re: Arroyo Reds HOF?

    If Wayne Granger is in the Reds HOF then Arroyo is a no brainer.
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    Re: Arroyo Reds HOF?

    I think its a no brainer IMO. Hes been great in his years with the Reds. And like a few other posters said, he was one of the very few bright spots from the hard to watch teams of 2006-2010. Maybe it was the great defense of Dunn and company though that inflated his numbers

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    Re: Arroyo Reds HOF?

    If you're only considering stats, then no. Arroyo has been a solid innings eater, but has never really been a stopper by any definition (except 2006).

    However, when talking about the Reds' Hall, I guess you need to consider how much a guy means to a community and an organization, as well as general popularity. On all of those counts he qualifies, so I'd say yes...


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