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    Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Looking back, I was wondering who I would rather have if I knew how things ended up turning out, Votto or Edwin for half the price. Edwin would have had to of played 1st base of course, so that would mean Votto would have no place in the field. An extra $10 million goes a long way towards keeping a strong payroll.

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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Votto by far.
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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Encarnacion by a landslide.

    Every time Votto doesn't get a hit, I can dream about a magical Edwin Encarnacion who would have hit one of his 40 home runs in that at bat. It's hard to fantasize about magical Votto when real Votto is there being human.
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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Votto and it isn't even close. Who do the Reds get for $10 million that makes up the difference? Encarnacion is a good power hitter. Votto is an excellent all around player.

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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Bryce Harper wants to know if this is a clown question, bro?

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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Time warp? Joey Votto does not make $20 million until 2016. This year he makes $17 million, next year he makes $12 million and in 2015 he makes $14 million.

    Probably not safe to assume Edwin hits the same if still here. It has been said "change is good" and that might be true with Edwin. And good for him.

    Joey's career OPS+ is higher than Edwin's highest OPS+ in a single season.
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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds1869 View Post
    Votto and it isn't even close. Who do the Reds get for $10 million that makes up the difference? Encarnacion is a good power hitter. Votto is an excellent all around player.
    Edwin is getting paid $10 mil a year in Toronto. Votto will be bringing in an average of 20 after next year. Votto is better, but is he THAT much better?

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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Maybe it's just me, but something seems a little fishy in Toronto.

    Jose Bautista was a middling utility man and then goes to Toronto and becomes a 50+ home run monster. Encarnacion was a decent but completely replaceable player who the Blue Jays actually DFA'd at one point after the trade, then suddenly he becomes a 40+ home run monster.

    Either they've got one hell of a hitting coach or there is something else helping out.
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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Quote Originally Posted by armybrat45103 View Post
    Votto is better, but is he THAT much better?
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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but something seems a little fishy in Toronto.

    Jose Bautista was a middling utility man and then goes to Toronto and becomes a 50+ home run monster. Encarnacion was a decent but completely replaceable player who the Blue Jays actually DFA'd at one point after the trade, then suddenly he becomes a 40+ home run monster.

    Either they've got one hell of a hitting coach or there is something else helping out.
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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    Maybe it's just me, but something seems a little fishy in Toronto.

    Jose Bautista was a middling utility man and then goes to Toronto and becomes a 50+ home run monster. Encarnacion was a decent but completely replaceable player who the Blue Jays actually DFA'd at one point after the trade, then suddenly he becomes a 40+ home run monster.

    Either they've got one hell of a hitting coach or there is something else helping out.
    They've had multiple hitting coaches. Actually, the hitting coach who was coaching when Edwin and Bautista broke out was actually demoted to 1B coach this year so Chad freaking Motolla could be hitting coach.
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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Why not both?
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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Quote Originally Posted by KronoRed View Post
    Why not both?
    Because EdE can't play defense anywhere but first base?

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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Quote Originally Posted by reds1869 View Post
    Votto and it isn't even close. Who do the Reds get for $10 million that makes up the difference? Encarnacion is a good power hitter. Votto is an excellent all around player.
    While this thread question is a bit silly.....excellent all-around player that is bad on the bases and average at best on defense.

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    Re: Votto for $20 million or Encarnacion for half that?

    Um Votto. By a landslide. Can't even believe this is a question.

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