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    Didn't Phillips get pulled over for doing like 95 too? Is it less bad because he was with his mom?
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    Reminds me of what a masterful job Sparky Anderson did managing those knuckleheads on the Big Red Machine. I wonder what RedsZone what have been like then. Slower, of course.

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    "mental midget"?

    good grief.

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    Re: AWESOME article on Aroldis Chapman

    As I was reading this article i just knew SOMEONE would write that this was an AWESOME article. I don't get why everyone loves the "personal side of .... "

    I thought the writer is simply writing content in an effort to get noticed. I don't perceive the guy is a real baseball guy but instead one of the free rag writers who found a subject a lot of people in Cincy read...sure enough...it got picked up and here we are talking about it.
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    Re: AWESOME article on Aroldis Chapman

    Just about all of the article was old news to us that religously follow the Reds. But the one takeaway that I got was the mention that the Reds front office asked other teams (or ex-Reds like Alonso) to keep quiet about Chapman if the media comes asking. Don't really care about that but I found it interesting.

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    Ha! Possibly. I dont follow sprinters or sprinting but it would seem AC would be more suited to a one dimensional event like that, yeah.
    Okay, now I'm really lost. Your claim about Chapman as a "mental midget" -- which apparently rests on the trivia that he changed his vanity plates -- is now passed up by the preposterous claim that Olympic-level sprinting is a "one-dimensional" event. I'm not even sure whether Chapman or Bolt should be more offended by this...
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    Okay, now I'm really lost. Your claim about Chapman as a "mental midget" -- which apparently rests on the trivia that he changed his vanity plates -- is now passed up by the preposterous claim that Olympic-level sprinting is a "one-dimensional" event. I'm not even sure whether Chapman or Bolt should be more offended by this...
    Although I don't fully comprehend your post. "...passed up by..."? I'm certain that if AC or Bolt are offended by anything I have to say, they have bigger problems than being attention hounds. But yeah, I kinda like the analogy that Saluki brings up. I think AC's pitching strength is more suited to sprint/closing than say, a decathalon/starting.

    As a closer, he's got one job. Throw hard and get the last 3 outs as quickly as possible. Don't worry about pacing yourself. Pump gas unless Hanny tells you otherwise. "Don't think Meat. You can only hurt the ballclub" Just like a sprinter goes from blocks to tape as quickly as possible. Straight ahead, singularly focused.

    A starter/decathlete has to be more well rounded and disciplined. He can't just be good at one thing. He's got to study and train A TON. He has to be able to keep his wits and know that one event/inning is not the end-all-be-all of the contest and that you can lose the battle but still win the war.

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    Re: AWESOME article on Aroldis Chapman

    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    As I was reading this article i just knew SOMEONE would write that this was an AWESOME article. I don't get why everyone loves the "personal side of .... "

    I thought the writer is simply writing content in an effort to get noticed. I don't perceive the guy is a real baseball guy but instead one of the free rag writers who found a subject a lot of people in Cincy read...sure enough...it got picked up and here we are talking about it.
    To each their own. I, for one, find articles that don't just sling stats around and that offer insight to the personal lives of players very fascinating. This is one of the more comprehensive "personal" articles I've read on Aroldis and to me it was awesome. Whatev.

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    Re: AWESOME article on Aroldis Chapman

    Quote Originally Posted by TSJ55 View Post
    As a closer, he's got one job. Throw hard and get the last 3 outs as quickly as possible. Don't worry about pacing yourself. Pump gas unless Hanny tells you otherwise. "Don't think Meat. You can only hurt the ballclub" Just like a sprinter goes from blocks to tape as quickly as possible. Straight ahead, singularly focused.

    A starter/decathlete has to be more well rounded and disciplined. He can't just be good at one thing. He's got to study and train A TON. He has to be able to keep his wits and know that one event/inning is not the end-all-be-all of the contest and that you can lose the battle but still win the war.
    Are you aware that...
    * Chapman was not only a starter in Louisville, but in Cuba?
    * The majority of his baseball career has been as a starter?
    * Chapman throws more than a fastball?
    * That relievers can lose the battle and the war with one pitch? Gotta think that takes a bit of mental toughness.
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    Re: AWESOME article on Aroldis Chapman

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966 View Post
    Are you aware that...
    * Chapman was not only a starter in Louisville, but in Cuba?
    Yes. Nowhere in either of those leagues did he face the type of hitters up and down the lineup that he will in MLB

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    * The majority of his baseball career has been as a starter?
    Yes. See above

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    * Chapman throws more than a fastball?
    Yes. Not at a commanding enough level to be a dominant starter in MLB (IMO of course)

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    * That relievers can lose the battle and the war with one pitch? Gotta think that takes a bit of mental toughness.
    No. I don't see it that way. Most of your better closers (not talking elite like Mo. Rivera and T. Hoffman) are freaking space cadets and that is their strength. They don't have to think about anything other than "this pitch right now". That is what makes them good them at what they do. Short sighted by design does not necessarily = mental toughness.
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    Re: AWESOME article on Aroldis Chapman

    Honestly, I don't see anything in the article that makes Aroldis look like Rocker or any extreme wildling. I think it's a good sign that in all of the speeding tickets, there hasn't been a citation for alcohol or drugs.

    He's very young, he's in the spotlight, he has new money, he's in the enviable position, at 24, of having women chasing him, and he doesn't speak English well enough for the fans to really feel like they know him. I don't see a big deal here.

    In the end, my reaction is whama-lama-ding-dong.
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    Re: AWESOME article on Aroldis Chapman

    Admittedly, the author did not interview anyone directly connected with Aroldis, so his conclusions are circumstantial, at best. The only thing I really learned from the article is that the Reds appear to be doing a good job in helping Aroldis mature.

    I'm sure I'm not the only person who did some rather questionable things in my early 20s. The only concern I have is that I did those things without great resources - certainly not 30 mil. The extent of trouble Aroldis can get into is much greater because of that.

    I believe he should be given room to grow. He has to find and determine his own way.

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    No relation to the real discussion here, but I find the term "extreme wildling" to be an excellent turn of phrase, marc. I'm going to be adding that to my personal lexicon from now on!

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    Re: AWESOME article on Aroldis Chapman

    Quote Originally Posted by TSJ55 View Post
    Although I don't fully comprehend your post. "...passed up by..."? I'm certain that if AC or Bolt are offended by anything I have to say, they have bigger problems than being attention hounds. But yeah, I kinda like the analogy that Saluki brings up. I think AC's pitching strength is more suited to sprint/closing than say, a decathalon/starting.

    As a closer, he's got one job. Throw hard and get the last 3 outs as quickly as possible. Don't worry about pacing yourself. Pump gas unless Hanny tells you otherwise. "Don't think Meat. You can only hurt the ballclub" Just like a sprinter goes from blocks to tape as quickly as possible. Straight ahead, singularly focused.

    A starter/decathlete has to be more well rounded and disciplined. He can't just be good at one thing. He's got to study and train A TON. He has to be able to keep his wits and know that one event/inning is not the end-all-be-all of the contest and that you can lose the battle but still win the war.
    To be fair i was comparing their demeanors more than their sports. Bolt is considered by many to be the most arrogant athlete in the world. And you were making it sound like Chapman is nipping Bolt's heels in that category.
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    Re: AWESOME article on Aroldis Chapman

    Quote Originally Posted by TSJ55 View Post
    You know, the part of the article that keeps me thinking AC isn't a REAL MLB starter, isnt the girls or the fast cars or the ridiculous somersault, or even that he has made several of these mistakes multiple times. Its that he would take the time to change his vanity plates from 102-103-104-105. That screams mental midget and "look at me" mindset. Sounds like something John Rocker would do frankly.

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