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20. Billy Hamilton
56. Robert Stephenson
82. Tony Cingrani
94. Daniel Corcino
http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/...rospects-list/
20. Billy Hamilton
56. Robert Stephenson
82. Tony Cingrani
94. Daniel Corcino
Former Red Didi Gregorius came in at 80th.
Would any Reds fans entertain putting Gregorius above Cingrani, or Corcino? I would guess, no. Gregorius seems to be getting some extra hype because of position scarcity.Originally Posted by dougdirt
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Position scarcity plays a big factor into your value though. I would consider Didi ahead of Cingrani, but not Corcino. I had Cingrani ahead of Didi in my rankings while he was still a Red, but I can easily make the argument that he should be ahead of him too.
I mean if Billy Hamilton were a corner outfielder, his value would plummet. But he isn't. He is a center fielder.
Granted, but I think it is likely that Cingrani and Corcino (assuming health stays ok) will be at least serviceable major league pitchers, I think it is just as likely that Gregorius can't hit enough to hold a spot in the big leagues. I really question how Didi's bat plays in the Majors.
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If Cingrani winds up in the bullpen, which I believe is still a reasonable chance, Gregorius will easily provide more value. Of course, I have continually been the low guy on Cingrani and mostly the high guy on Gregorius when it comes to his bat. At least on this board.
He was traded for Shin Soo Choo. That may bring more value to the team that drafted him than any of the guys ranked below him.
Seriously, I think the trade raised his rankings. It happens.
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Agreed.He was traded for Shin Soo Choo. That may bring more value to the team that drafted him than any of the guys ranked below him.
Seriously, I think the trade raised his rankings. It happens.
We can debate what his future holds all day, but there is no debating that he delivered a TON of value to the Cincinnati Reds franchise.
I think they project Hamilton filling out and improving his SH stroke as he matures.
They might also count his speed-adjusted slugging percentage as possible "found" power.
IMO, Hamilton's a better bet to have more doubles and triples due to his speed and willingness to be aggressive as a baserunner. Gregorius likely will have more HR, but not enough to make the difference in their power numbers all that noticeable.
While this could be true, generally speaking, the "power" label is for home runs, not a slugging percentage type of deal.
personally, i believe cingrani's ceiling is as a quality starter but question is whether or not he'll get there.
Huh. I've always heard differently, doug.
The scouts I've talked to have always added doubles and triples power to their 20-80 power number scale. They will usually say something along the lines of "Raines has a 40 power tool, with most of that coming from doubles and triples."
I can get behind it both ways as I can see the merits for both. I always lean more towards home runs, because you can generally luck into a few doubles/triples a year with a funny bounce, just flat out busting it out of the box, a mis-timed dive and the likes. You can't really do that with home runs. And while it may not come into play for a guy like Hamilton who will lead off, he wouldn't be racking up those doubles/triples if he were hitting elsewhere in the lineup with guys on in front of him because they wouldn't be able to get out of his way, so it isn't a true show of his power, but of his speed. Home runs make BABIP less important.
Minor league numbers, by and large, improve slightly, stay the same, or drop when prospects make the big jump to the majors. If that's the case, the best Gregorius can hope for (if he's the same as almost all other prospects) is around a 715 OPS with a Gold Glove. He's basically 2012 Zack Cozart, in other words.
Cingrani has a 1.73 ERA in almost 200 minor league IP. 252 K. 133 hits allowed.
Fwiw.
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