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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    Why not? Even good teams could use lottery tickets.
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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    I like it!
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    Give Prior credit,he doesn't hold grudges. Hey, it's worth a shot.
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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    The D-Train comparison is what first popped into my head.

    I really like this move on all accounts.

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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    Quote Originally Posted by RichRed View Post
    How delicious would it be to see Mark Prior contribute to a playoff-bound Reds team, under the manager who "ruined" him, no less? The gnashing of teeth in Cubsland would be the most joyous thing ever.
    That is a truly evil thought. And I love it.

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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    He did run up 38 K in 25 IP last year for the PawSox. He walked 23 as well, plus he gave up four bombs. It would be interesting to see if Dusty and Price could get him straightened out a little.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    I am watching some stuff from last year in Pawtucket right now on Prior. He was 88-92 in his second game with them (haven't gotten any further than that). The curveball can still be really nasty, though a few weren't spun nearly as tight as others. I haven't gone back to look at pre-injury mechanics yet to refresh my memory, but he does seem to be short arming the ball a little bit more than I remember. I could just be remembering wrong though.

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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    I agree with the D-Train comparison.

    So can he hit?

    All jokes aside, everyone in the baseball community blasts Dusty for his use of Prior. Yet when Prior wants to make a comeback, who does he call? The best thing about this move is that we have, IMO, now that Duncan is retired, the best pitching coach in baseball.
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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    No doubt. I hope Price stays for a long time. He is truely an asset to the team.
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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    Quote Originally Posted by 11larkin11 View Post
    I agree with the D-Train comparison.

    So can he hit?

    All jokes aside, everyone in the baseball community blasts Dusty for his use of Prior. Yet when Prior wants to make a comeback, who does he call? The best thing about this move is that we have, IMO, now that Duncan is retired, the best pitching coach in baseball.
    That just tells me that Mark Prior doesn't understand what happened to him all of these years later. Dusty Baker abused that dudes arm, big time, whether he knows it or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    That just tells me that Mark Prior doesn't understand what happened to him all of these years later. Dusty Baker abused that dudes arm, big time, whether he knows it or not.
    Guy faced 863 batters in 2003 and 264 pitchers have done that and more since.

    Chances are his arm would have exploded eventually.

    Maybe Mark Prior is the one who should decide who he stays connected to in the game and not the fans?

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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    That just tells me that Mark Prior doesn't understand what happened to him all of these years later. Dusty Baker abused that dudes arm, big time, whether he knows it or not.
    I don't disagree with that, just pointing out that Dusty is the epitome of a player's manager, and why he's so successful. Even though Dusty basically ruined his career, the guy still wants to play for him.

    Dusty gets more out of his players because they want to play for him and they want to pay him back for their opportunities. Can it be bad sometimes? Obviously Wily Taveras and Corey Patterson say hi. But I think there's way more good than bad that comes with that. And that's why we live with some of his questionable calls, although this year, with the lineup, I can't see too much arguing. So I'm guessing bullpen maintenance will be the problem this year.

    But for as much as we gripe about Dusty's in-game strategies, remember where we've come from. Dusty would never pinch hit Juan Castro for Josh Hamilton.
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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Guy faced 863 batters in 2003 and 264 pitchers have done that and more since.

    Chances are his arm would have exploded eventually.

    Maybe Mark Prior is the one who should decide who he stays connected to in the game and not the fans?
    I appreciate your attempts to bring rationality to the "Dusty ruined Mark Prior" narrative. Unfortunately your attempts at common sense will get you nowhere.
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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    When Stassburg blew out his elbow, and all the talk of the "inverted W" started proping up, the video of Prior's throwing motion showed a clear "inverted W". If they still attribute that as a cause to elbow wear or not, I don't know, but if that theory still applies, its pretty clear why he had elbow trouble.

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    Re: Reds sign Mark Prior

    File this in the "How far the Reds have come department"

    Reds of late 90's through around 7 or 8 yrs ago sign Prior and slot him as the #3 starter in the rotation.

    Reds of 2013 sign Prior as AAA depth and a favor to the man.


    The signing itself is nothing more than "meh", but the fundamental change of the strength of the organization is a "hooray"


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