Wow. Is this thread still going? 11 pages to discuss overworking a pitcher. Hmmm.
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I think there are a lot of colleges out there that abuse arms.
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How has Prior actually been doing out in Spring Training thusfar?
Has he actually seen any game action as of yet or are they still giving him a look?
College coaches aren't responsible for getting college pitchers to the pros. They're paid to win games, and a lot of times they do that by riding their best pitchers too hard. Not saying it's right or wrong, it's just the way it is.
...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
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That compares to his first two years where he appeared in 23 games (12 starts) and 19 games (16 starts). Both seasons he threw two complete games. His inning counts were 117.2 and 121.1 respectively). These were his age 19 thru 21 seasons.
As a comparison, here are Arroyo's numbers for the same three seasons (his 2nd thru 4th minor league years). All were starts except one relief appearance in season three.
26 games, 135.2 innings
24 games, 160.1 innings
23 games, 127.0 innings
I'll leave the call to others who are more familiar with what a heavy workload is.
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It would be interesting to see how many pitches Leake threw in those complete games. There are two ways to overwork a pitcher. Too many innings in a season without sufficient rest between outings, and too many pitches in a game (or even an inning). Things like insufficient time to warm up, pitching while hurt or fatigued, or poor mechanics also affect how much you can throw without being overworked.
One additional factor is the pro season is much longer than the brief college season, so those innings were likely spread out more thinly for Arroyo than Leake.
Last edited by AtomicDumpling; 03-12-2013 at 02:30 PM.