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I'm a season ticket holder and contribute quite a bit to the football program. I know plenty of other folks that are in the same boat. There are plenty of people that are passionate about the program, and that number is growing. Is it where other tradition rich programs are? No. Is there more work to do? Obviously. While the football program simply was not relevant in this town for four decades, that isn't the case today. Student support is awesome, but alumni and broader city support needs a lot of work. Of course, blanket comments that UC football just isn't relevant don't help a whole lot. Checked out how relevant the U is in Miami these days?
How do we know he's not Mel Torme?
Pitt: 33562
Delaware: 27112
Miami: 35097
Fordham: 26317
Syracuse: 26180
Rutgers: 34526
USF: 21171
Average: 29137
Last year's attendance was suppressed for two reasons; both were out of UC's control. First, they were forced into scheduling a second 1-AA team. Second, ESPN scheduled the USF game on Black Friday. With campus empty, only 500 students showed up. Given a normal home schedule, 32k is a reasonable expected average for Nippert.
The weather gods didn't smile on that Syracuse game; it was pretty miserable. Everyone has to deal with weather issues, but bad weather seems to keep people away more than other cities.
Also, UC reports actual gate attendance, unlike many other schools.
Last edited by paintmered; 03-07-2013 at 10:53 PM.
All models are wrong. Some of them are useful.
Do you think the average attendance against teams like Tulane, Temple, Memphis, and SMU will be >32K? BTW, I'm well aware of the reasons for last year's poor attendance. BTW, that second 1-AA team was a result of WVU's abrupt departure. Kind of ties back to my original point about how damaging that loss was.
How do we know he's not Mel Torme?
Pitt has fans? You dont say! You could have fooled me with their 3/4 empty NFL stadium season of games (minus ND, who would draw 50k on the moon). Pitt deserves to be the ACC with the rest of the schools who don't give a rats backside about football. Both UCs deserves better, Rutgers deserved better (and got it), Maryland deserved better (and got it). FSU, NC St, and Va Tech also deserve better.
In a perfect world that Big 12 goes to 16....
Pod 1:
WVU
Va Tech
Cincy
Iowa State
Pod 2:
FSU
Miami
Ga Tech
NC State
Pod 3:
Texas
Oklahoma
OK St
Tex Tech
Pod 4:
TCU
Baylor
Kansas
Kansas State
Originally Posted by teamselig
And, just like that, realignment is effectively over:
Brett McMurphy:
ACC presidents approve Grant of Rights thru 2026-27 sources tell @espn. B1G will have to look elsewhere. 1st reported by @DavidGlennShow
Cincinnati Reds: Farm System Champions 2022
It would be over at the highest levels for a while if the ACC GoR deal is true. The Big XII and ACC were the only poachable conferences (with teams anyone wanted), and if they are off limits, that's pretty much it. Now, the Big XII may still want to get to 12, so that could keep UC, USF, BYU, Boise and UConn in play to some extent, but that's pretty minor stuff in the landscape (though not minor to those particular schools, of course).
Big XII needs to go to 12 if they want a championship game unless the BCS schools successfully ditch NCAA governance.
All models are wrong. Some of them are useful.
Or get an NCAA rule change. Either way, the conference championship game isn't profitable enough by itself to justify dividing the pot 12 ways instead of 10. They needed to be able to pry away schools like FSU, Miami, Clemson, maybe BYU to make it worth the trouble. And if the dollars don't justify it, they don't have to expand.
I do think there was a period last summer when the playoff rules were being hashed out when those ACC schools and the Big 12 office were on each others' speed dial. There was a possibility that conferences would have to have 12 teams and a CCG to have preferred seating, so to speak. But in the end, it wasn't a requirement, just like Notre Dame discovered it wouldn't be forced to join a league to have access to the playoff. That took away a lot of expansion momentum. Now, it's back to being only about money again.
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I never thought I'd see the day that a Golic played football someplace other than Notre Dame but here you have it:
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports...to-cincinnati/
Jake Golic, a TE, will play for UC this year. Apparently if you've already graduated, you don't have to sit out a year. I don't know if this means Gunner Kiel has the inside track on the starting QB job or not
Kiel has to sit out, though, right? So he and Golic will not play (in games) together.
Sea Ray (05-21-2013)
You're absolutely right. Thanks for the clarification:
Any work with Gunner Kiel will be limited to the practice fieldKiel would have to sit out the 2013 season as a transfer and would become eligible at UC in 2014. Cincinnati will lose its top two quarterbacks, seniors Brendon Kay and Munchie Legaux, following the 2013 season
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