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    Junior Griffey's dedication as a Red

    MOD EDIT: This thread is for continuation of the Griffey-related conversation that came up during the Zack Greinke thread, so as to keep that thread related to its original topic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I really doubt that was his plan. No one wants to get hurt.
    Sure it was... just like it was Junior's plan to decline in his 30's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Sure it was... just like it was Junior's plan to decline in his 30's.
    I'm sure Griffey still wanted to be great. The problem, IMO, is that he was not willing to put in the work to be great late in his career. That, coupled with the bad luck with the injuries, greatly hurt his career down the stretch. Some guys are able to play well late into their 30's and some are not. In fairness, Griffey also had a lot of wear and tear on those tires due to taking over as a starting CF in MLB at the ripe age of 19.

    We all love Griff. But let's not pretend that his laziness didn't play a role in his decline. (Cue the "How do you know he was lazy?" questions. I don't know for sure. Just my opinion from following the Reds extremely close as I know most on here do. He always looked pudgy and like a guy who didn't put in much work in the weight room.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    I'm sure Griffey still wanted to be great. The problem, IMO, is that he was not willing to put in the work to be great late in his career. That, coupled with the bad luck with the injuries, greatly hurt his career down the stretch. Some guys are able to play well late into their 30's and some are not. In fairness, Griffey also had a lot of wear and tear on those tires due to taking over as a starting CF in MLB at the ripe age of 19.

    We all love Griff. But let's not pretend that his laziness didn't play a role in his decline. (Cue the "How do you know he was lazy?" questions. I don't know for sure. Just my opinion from following the Reds extremely close as I know most on here do. He always looked pudgy and like a guy who didn't put in much work in the weight room.)
    wow.

    Didn't put in the work. because after suffering an injury only water skiers get, tearing his hamstring completely off the bone, he didn't put in the work?

    just wow.
    Suck it up cupcake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    wow.

    Didn't put in the work. because after suffering an injury only water skiers get, tearing his hamstring completely off the bone, he didn't put in the work?

    just wow.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    wow.

    Didn't put in the work. because after suffering an injury only water skiers get, tearing his hamstring completely off the bone, he didn't put in the work?

    just wow.
    Yep, guy can't win in the seven hills area

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    wow.

    Didn't put in the work. because after suffering an injury only water skiers get, tearing his hamstring completely off the bone, he didn't put in the work?

    just wow.
    Same lazy guy had a career .876 OPS in a Reds uni as well. Not bad for being lazy and dealing with some massive/freak injuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRF View Post
    wow.

    Didn't put in the work. because after suffering an injury only water skiers get, tearing his hamstring completely off the bone, he didn't put in the work?

    just wow.
    Wow all you want.

    I have a friend who was a clubby with the Reds during the Griffey era and his training regimen was questioned throught the entire organization. He made it well known to people that he didn't believe in weight lifting back then.

    And Griffey is my favorite athlete of all time. I didn't ever want to believe that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of 1990 View Post
    Wow all you want.

    I have a friend who was a clubby with the Reds during the Griffey era and his training regimen was questioned throught the entire organization. He made it well known to people that he didn't believe in weight lifting back then.

    And Griffey is my favorite athlete of all time. I didn't ever want to believe that.
    No offense, but you are pretty well connected it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghosts of 1990 View Post
    Wow all you want.

    I have a friend who was a clubby with the Reds during the Griffey era and his training regimen was questioned throught the entire organization. He made it well known to people that he didn't believe in weight lifting back then.

    And Griffey is my favorite athlete of all time. I didn't ever want to believe that.
    I bet he drank a man's coffee, though. Am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz Dorsey View Post
    I'm sure Griffey still wanted to be great. The problem, IMO, is that he was not willing to put in the work to be great late in his career. That, coupled with the bad luck with the injuries, greatly hurt his career down the stretch. Some guys are able to play well late into their 30's and some are not. In fairness, Griffey also had a lot of wear and tear on those tires due to taking over as a starting CF in MLB at the ripe age of 19.

    We all love Griff. But let's not pretend that his laziness didn't play a role in his decline. (Cue the "How do you know he was lazy?" questions. I don't know for sure. Just my opinion from following the Reds extremely close as I know most on here do. He always looked pudgy and like a guy who didn't put in much work in the weight room.)

    I tend to agree, later in his career he definitely seemed to be plump so he clearly wasn't working out as much as he did earlier in his career, or his body was catching up with him and he didn't care. Assuming that you say that it was natural because of age, I'm sure it's normal for players to have to try even harder as they get older to stay in shape, which he may have been unwilling to do.

    It seemed baseball came naturally to him, and so when family/kids started becoming his top priority, who's to blame him for trying less or not trying more to overcome his aging body? I'm as big of a Griffey fan as anyone, but I refuse to put on blinders for the guys struggles later in his career.

    For those that keep blaming injuries, there are plenty of reasons someone can be injured, but one of them is due to improper or weak training for the game they play. Example: If his trainer was telling him to do a certain #minutes training per day, instead he cut those minutes into half, he would have been at a higher risk for injury.
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    look up the book: Pizza Hut presents Griffey on Hitting. That will give you an idea of his work effort or lack there of in regards to conditioning.

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    Re: Greinke having elbow problems

    In all fairness, did you see Griffey the last couple of years? I could've rested my soda pop on that boiler.

    I don't blame Griffey for his decline and his injuries. But, he certainly could've eaten better and adjusted his workout and lifestyle as he got older to keep himself in top shape.

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    Re: Greinke having elbow problems

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilHamburger View Post
    But, he certainly could've eaten better and adjusted his workout and lifestyle as he got older to keep himself in top shape.
    Care to tell us what his eating and lifestyle habits were during his career, since you seem to be in the know?

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    Re: Greinke having elbow problems

    This just in: it's tough to stay in great shape as you get older. More at 11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigredmechanism View Post
    This just in: it's tough to stay in great shape as you get older. More at 11.
    Which is why you need to adjust your diet and workout. If you're a pro athlete I absolutly believe that's your responsibility. If it means no steak or whatever so be it. If it means running more so be it. This is a man with the means to have the best, healthiest foods and the best personal trainers. Sorry, no excuse to be fat.

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