"I donít know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody".
When I hear some say Jr was lazy... which simply astounds me..... to me, that only reveals that root of bitterness and resentment that his career as a Red wasn't up to some fan's liking because of the injuries. I, as a die-hard Red fan, was just as frustrated at Jr's injuries. But go back and look at HOW Jr incurred those various, especially the really serious incidents, which, with a lot of players, are career-threatening. It wasn't because he was lazy and fat, but on the field hustling, trying to make a play. Lazy and fat players don't dive after balls, crash into walls.
Fans are disappointed that Jr's career as a Red wasn't what they wanted/expected? I bet nobody's disappointment was as great as Jr's.
Centerfielder Ken Griffey Jr. lies on the field after dislocating his shoulder while diving for a ball.
The guy played hard and sacrificed his body out on that field. That's simply the way he played the game. Everyone knew that. And the injuries started to have a cumulative effect, as it would on any player.
Fat and lazy players don't go through the numerous, and agonizing, surgeries and physical rehabs that Griffey did, trying to keep coming back and prove themselves because they wanted to be on that field. He didn't do that because he needed the money. He did it because he wanted to play and contribute. He loved being a Red.
And it was well-known in that clubhouse, and with the players and staff, that Jr worked harder then anyone to comeback from those various injuries.
Fat and lazy didn't slow this man or cause his decline. The injuries did. It was just tough luck.
And anyone who calls Jr fat and lazy doesn't know what they are talking about IMO.
Last edited by GAC; 03-12-2013 at 05:35 AM.
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You sure seem certain that Griffey was in poor shape and lazy with your reference above as the the "truth on this matter", and your previous quote "Someone dedicated to the game and being the best they could be would NEVER have gotten overweight and out-of-shape like Griffey was for the latter part of his career".
Yet you also say "We have no way proving that he was lazy or not lazy".
At the end of the day you have you opinion, but you admit that you can't prove it.
I think what you really mean is that "people are not ready to hear your unsubstantiated opinion on the matter".
There's no doubt in my mind that Griffey was lazy. But I can still recognize the difference between fact and opinion. What's interesting is so many in this thread are pretending as if it's a fact that Griffey was NOT lazy.
Again, what's amazing is that the Griffey fans act like it's a fact that it was just "bad luck" that led to his decline. Sorry gents (and ladies), that's called your opinion. It's your opinion it was bad luck. It's my opinion it was partially bad luck and partially due to Griffey being a lazy, entitled player. You don't get fat and out of shape like that if you're dedicated to the game IMO (you catch those last three letters, Puff?).
Is that theory really so difficult to believe? I understand the biggest Griffey fans don't want to admit one of their favorite players of all time got "fat and happy" later in his career, but we have evidence to the contrary. Example: Double chin. Doesn't make it a 100 percent fact that Griffey was "lazy" but certainly you can understand how some Reds fans would feel that way. Or maybe not; who knows.
Fact. Griffey dislocated his shoulder going all out for a ball.
Fact. Griffey tore his hamstring completely off the bone.
Fact. That surgery had never been performed before on any MLB Player.
Fact. Griffey posted this line as a Red: .270 .362 .514 .876 122 OPS+
Fact. 1st healthy season after three years of injuries at age 35 he posted this line: .301 .369 .576 .946 with 35 HR's
Fact. then next year he posted this line at age 36: .252 .316 .486 .802
Fact. and finally at age 37... .277 .372 .496 .869
lazy my ass.
Suck it up cupcake.
That my friend is "My" point.