Not by this person.
Not by this person.
Randy, not saying you did. but go through the thread. look at how many times Chapman's been called a headcase or some such. that his off field decisions preclude him from being a successful starter. It's crap. because you could use the same excuses to say he can't be a good closer.
The truth is simple.. Can he pitch effectively as a starter. The Reds believed so last spring. Chapman had stated for 2 seasons he prefers to start, and Dusty ignored that. Now that he has stated a closer's preference, Dusty relishes that opinion.
Seems cut and dried to me. This decision is all Dusty Baker. And it won't surprise me one bit if we see Price exiting soon.
Dubito Ergo Cogito Ergo Sum.
So just continue to harp about it then, I guess.
Randy, don't you think if I were still harping about it, that in the entire spring debate about Chapman I would have brought it up at least once?
I only brought it up as a reply to something that someone else said. Don't make excuses for bad decisions. Accept that it happened, it was a bad choice made and don't make it again. But don't make excuses for it.
I didn't make any excuses. I said he made a mistake. It has nothing to do with his pitching performance or lack of. Leake's a pretty cool customer on the mound. Doesn't seem to rattle easily. Any immaturity off the field doesn't seem to translate on the field.
Last edited by RollyInRaleigh; 03-26-2013 at 03:10 PM.
I disagree about his command not needing improvement.
I think a big chunk of his gopher problem is because he gets wild in the strikezone and leaves pitches hanging up in the zone a little too often. As he matures and gains more command/consistency with his pitches, I expect we'll see his HR rate drop to something more in line with what you would expect out of a ground ball pitcher.
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I can't buy this expanation. Why? Because it is fed to shoplifting defendants. I have prosecuted multiple shoplifting cases and every single one of them claimed the same defense. It is the equivalent of the DUI defense that you were in an accident and then started drinking while you were waiting for the cops. Shoplifters claim it because it is hard to disprove. Unless you have video of them entering the store empty handed, the claim can sow doubt. In one case we actually showed the guy entering empty handed and his explanation was that he had entered earlier in the day with the jersey he wanted to exchange and hung it on the rack and then left the store, so our video was him re-entering the store. Amazingly, the judge bought that. One of only two cases I ever lost... It still rankles.
Macy's has no real incentive to push the issue, so their decision to settle carries no weight with me. Our judicial creed is that the government must treat someone as innocent until they are proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It does not limit the opinions and actions of private citizens, however. I believe Mike Leake was caught while stealing.
That said, this has no affect on how I view him as a pitcher. He was an immature kid put into the limelight overnight. Shoplifting does not tell me much about the person. Shoplifting is not the type of crime that exposes severe character flaws; at least not if you only have evidence of one occurrence.
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