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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

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    Lots of speculation (from ESPN) about #Reds and Lohse. Jocketty: "Who? Why? We couldn't afford him." #cincienquirer
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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    That quote is pretty hilarious to me.

    "Will the Reds sign Bruce Broomcloset?"

    "Who? Why? We couldn't afford him."
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    Kyle Lohse will not save anyone's bacon.

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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    I fear the bad Kyle Lohse.
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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    I fear the bad Kyle Lohse.
    The bad Kyle Lohse is basically the everyday Mike Leake.
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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    I fear the bad Kyle Lohse.
    I fear the good Kyle Lohse will be pitching against us for some other contender.
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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    The bad Kyle Lohse is basically the everyday Mike Leake.
    May be stupid but I I think Leake will be better this season, and is far less expensive.
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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    I really don't like paying premium prices for "bad."
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    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    May be stupid but I I think Leake will be better this season, and is far less expensive.
    I I I do too.
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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    What reason is there to believe that Lohse will be bad this season (or even below average for that matter)?
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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    I'd prefer Rick Porcello.
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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    I'd prefer Rick Porcello.
    Why?
    "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic.

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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    Lohse would not be bad if you could get him reasonably for one season. I don't think he will be had reasonably. There are plenty of previous seasons to justify a belief that Lohse could possibly be bad again.
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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Why?
    Because he has more upside and won't cost us our first-round pick- or $13M/year. Tigers need bullpen help. If Chapman is really headed back to the 'pen, we have bullpen help to spare.

    I think Porcello would be equal to or greater than both Lohse and Leake right now. I think he could be even better in 2014 and 2015.

    I like buying low on faded prospects. We could probably even find a way to make it money neutral or even positive (ie Masset and Hoover), then flip Leake to the Padres for prospects (Austin Hedges seems redundant for them with Grandal).
    Last edited by Benihana; 03-21-2013 at 04:20 PM.
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    Re: Lohse - Reds dark horse?

    I'd like him better if he were left handed.
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