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    Re: Chapman to bullpen now official.

    Wherever Chapman pitches, the Reds are the best team in baseball, imo.

    I truely believe the regular season is going to be a cakewalk. Which is why, this season would be the perfect season to try chapman in the rotation.

    Reds are going to win the division by double digits.
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    Re: Chapman to bullpen not official.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    We don't know for sure that moving Chapman to the rotation will increase his value to the team. He may walk a bunch of guys and turn into a mediocre SP who only goes 5 innings. It's a crap shoot
    The only way to know for sure was to try it.

    Now we can't know.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Chapman to bullpen now official.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Wherever Chapman pitches, the Reds are the best team in baseball, imo.

    I truely believe the regular season is going to be a cakewalk. Which is why, this season would be the perfect season to try chapman in the rotation.

    Reds are going to win the division by double digits.
    Really? Man, I hope you are right, but I don't think it will be a cakewalk.
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    Re: Chapman to bullpen not official.

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Not using peripherals to discuss who a pitcher was actually misses the point of peripherals.
    You miss the point if you don't look beyond the numbers in making this decision. The fact that he didn't want to start has to be a factor here. Add in that it appears Dusty didn't want him to start and I think we have something that overwhelms any numbers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    The only way to know for sure was to try it.

    Now we can't know.
    Or, you know look at his secondary pitches and decide he'd need minor league time, or at least a full season to develop. Meanwhile this years window closes.

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    Re: Chapman to bullpen now official.

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    Really? Man, I hope you are right, but I don't think it will be a cakewalk.

    The Reds are the only team in the division that really upgraded in the offseason.

    St Louis, who is the only competition, is already having injury issues.

    Even if I'm wrong, and it's closer than I think, with having two wild card teams the odds of the Reds not making the playoffs at all is very small.
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    Re: Chapman to bullpen now official.

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    Or, you know look at his secondary pitches and decide he'd need minor league time, or at least a full season to develop. Meanwhile this years window closes.
    Which is why this year is the year to do it.

    Like I said above, I'm predicting a cake walk.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Chapman to bullpen now official.

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Save situation percentage is a horrible stat that is basically meaningless. There are plenty of saves that are junk and plenty of other high leverage appearances that aren't save situations. If you use high leverage situation, I'm guessing elite closers are far more than just a couple of games better than the average closer.

    Elite closers, when used properly in high leverage situations, are far more valuable than just averge closers. In high leverage situtions, the game is on the line basically every time. An elite closer who can be effective in just five more of these games than an average closer is worth 5 wins above not just replacement, but above average. That's huge.

    Now, the way Dusty manages, that's probably moot. But in theory, elite closers should be real difference makers over just average closers.
    You do realize that just 1 ER in those games, would be 5 ER. For a guy throwing say 65 innings that is the difference between a 2.50 and a 3.20 ERA. The odds that a guy giving up 25% of the runs he allows all season to randomly happen in 1 run games are not too good. Theoretically possible, but incredibly unlikely.

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    Re: Chapman to bullpen not official.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    The only way to know for sure was to try it.

    Now we can't know.
    Season starts soon, Chapman pitched how many innings this spring?

    Was he even ready to start a game in the regular season at this point?

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    Re: Chapman to bullpen not official.

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Season starts soon, Chapman pitched how many innings this spring?

    Was he even ready to start a game in the regular season at this point?
    Then the whole thing was a sham from the beginning?

    Why even do that?
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    Re: Chapman to bullpen not official.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    Then the whole thing was a sham from the beginning?

    Why even do that?
    To mess with all the pitching coaches at home?

    Prior to the decision 8 ip and 4 ks.

    Maybe his arm wasn't ready just yet. I don't know myself, I only play a pitching coach at home myself

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    Re: Chapman to bullpen not official.

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    To mess with all the pitching coaches at home?

    Prior to the decision 8 ip and 4 ks.

    Maybe his arm wasn't ready just yet. I don't know myself, I only play a pitching coach at home myself


    WOY, you never gave your opinion on what to do with Chapman.

    I know you have one. I won't tell anyone.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Chapman to bullpen now official

    I've said often I'm disappointed with the decision.

    But on the sunny-side, this is one good looking bullpen. Like shortening a game to 6 innings if they want to good. (Granted I'm a Broxton fan)

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    Re: Chapman to bullpen now official

    If Hoover is as good as he looks, they can shorten it to five innings.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: Chapman to bullpen now official

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I've said often I'm disappointed with the decision.

    But on the sunny-side, this is one good looking bullpen. Like shortening a game to 6 innings if they want to good. (Granted I'm a Broxton fan)
    Our pen is a monster again this year. It's Dusty-proof.
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