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    Re: (Official) Strong Opinions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    That's more name-calling than it is an opinion. Care to back it up with proof, because we've got an entire thread going of strong opinions that back him up. Consensus on RedsZone right now is (pretty much) with Schoenfield.
    True. I guess if you can't defeat Schoenfield's logical argument you must resort to claiming he doesn't have the right to make his argument.

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    Re: (Official) Strong Opinions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by AtomicDumpling View Post
    True. I guess if you can't defeat Schoenfield's logical argument you must resort to claiming he doesn't have the right to make his argument.
    I actually agree with Schienfleld. That wasn't my point. My point is that it was a poorly written article. He has the right to write anything he wants, and when I think he does a lousy job, I have the right to state my opinion.

    The reason why it was a poorly written article is because it was intentionally inflammatory and insulting to Baker when it didn't have to be. A well written journalistic article would have simply argued the facts, without calling Baker an idiot, without the condescending, know it all tone, without using all caps to make his point.

    It read like a post on the ESPN message board, not one written by a professional journalist.
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    Re: (Official) Strong Opinions Thread

    Strong opinion: on average, a cubs fan is more tolerable than a cards fan. Oblivious > entitled. Cubs fans can also out-drink cards fans.

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    Re: (Official) Strong Opinions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I actually agree with Schienfleld. That wasn't my point. My point is that it was a poorly written article. He has the right to write anything he wants, and when I think he does a lousy job, I have the right to state my opinion.

    The reason why it was a poorly written article is because it was intentionally inflammatory and insulting to Baker when it didn't have to be. A well written journalistic article would have simply argued the facts, without calling Baker an idiot, without the condescending, know it all tone, without using all caps to make his point.

    It read like a post on the ESPN message board, not one written by a professional journalist.
    OK. That is fair.

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    Re: (Official) Strong Opinions Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I actually agree with Schienfleld. That wasn't my point. My point is that it was a poorly written article. He has the right to write anything he wants, and when I think he does a lousy job, I have the right to state my opinion.

    The reason why it was a poorly written article is because it was intentionally inflammatory and insulting to Baker when it didn't have to be. A well written journalistic article would have simply argued the facts, without calling Baker an idiot, without the condescending, know it all tone, without using all caps to make his point.

    It read like a post on the ESPN message board, not one written by a professional journalist.
    Except for he's writing for the ESPN blog which operates according to different standards. Since his job depends on hits from folks like us, writing inflammatory rhetoric is part of his task at times. That's not Schoenfield's fault, I'm afraid.

    As far as stating your opinion goes, sure, you have the right to do so. But fighting name calling with name calling doesn't really constitute good argument. Neither does backing up your opinion with the statement that you have the right to it.

    It's cool, though. I'm not trying to pick a fight. I suspect we ultimately see eye to eye on the Baker issue -- just not on how Schoenfield wrote about it.
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