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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Ted wasn't a terrible hitting coach.


    http://seamheads.com/ted-williams-an...inning-season/
    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Fine, bad example. Overall point remains: Simply because you could do something doesn't mean you can teach it. And just because you weren't good at something doesn't mean you can't teach how to be good at it.
    It was a bad example, but you are right on the mark with this statement. I've seen it, over and over.
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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    It was a bad example, but you are right on the mark with this statement. I've seen it, over and over.
    Dave Duncan never even pitched. Worked out decent enough as a pitching coach though. *sarcasm on the decent enough part, he was fantastic*

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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

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    I'm kinda expecting a loss tonight because Mez is probably catching Leake, and Burnett is going for the Pirates.
    Good old Mez.
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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    Yep. Mes is out there pitching. The guy who no one wanted starting at all this season is getting beat around and it is the catchers fault.

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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Yep. Mes is out there pitching. The guy who no one wanted starting at all this season is getting beat around and it is the catchers fault.
    Forget it, he's rolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    Forget it, he's trolling.
    Fixed it

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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    Until Mez doesn't something positive, I'm going to hold my ground. You all talk in absolutes in defending the guy.

    So far it's all hype. Face it.

    It's not trolling. It's using fact, the actual game going on and the results, to back up what I think about Mez. There's nothing trolling about that.
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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    Vottomatic, you overpost. You should post much less, please?

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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    Quote Originally Posted by SirFelixCat View Post
    Vottomatic, you overpost. You should post much less, please?
    The old "I don't like your opinion, so please post less" tactic, eh?

    Goodnight. Headed out for the night. Won't be on here anymore tonight.

    Hurr-ay!
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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Until Mez doesn't something positive, I'm going to hold my ground. You all talk in absolutes in defending the guy.

    So far it's all hype. Face it.

    It's not trolling. It's using fact, the actual game going on and the results, to back up what I think about Mez. There's nothing trolling about that.
    If you're going to be ragging on a guy every time he fails, then even with the best players, you're going to be doing it 70% of the time.

    I submit that the last thing anyone here wants to read is an enumeration of an individual player's failures in a game of failures.

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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    The old "I don't like your opinion, so please post less" tactic, eh?

    Goodnight. Headed out for the night. Won't be on here anymore tonight.

    Hurr-ay!
    Actually, no, this isn't the case in the least. Go back and search your posts. Too much of it is simply inflammatory drivel. If you were more level headed and less prone to emotional outbursts which completely derail any point you were trying to make, that would help a lot, me thinks.

    Just what I've noticed reading the last couple of months.

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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    I like and innately trust that duck-man. But who is he?

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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    I think his first name is Howard.

    And that he knows quack-fu.
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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    Agreed. The Reds most glaring organizational need sans Mes would be a catcher to groom as the replacement for the 33 y/o journeyman getting the bulk of the starts now. If Mes could bring in a big bat or a better arm, chances are the Reds wouldn't be able to fit that player into the budget. Mes has more value to the team than anything he could reasonably bring back that the Reds could afford. It may not be value this week, but the catching situation isn't a need because Mes is here. If he's gone, it jumps to the top of the list. Put me down for being happy that the Reds have a good player who is having a hard time cracking the line-up and fits pretty well with what will likely be the team's most obvious job opening in the next year or two.

    Edit:

    Somehow the post I quoted was erased, probaly by a fat finger trick by me, so this doesn't make sense. This was in resposne to post 295 in this thread about what the Reds could possibly get for Mes is a deal that would actually improve the team.
    Last edited by mth123; 04-13-2013 at 11:02 AM.
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    Re: Mesoraco makes team, Olivo down or gone

    So, I'm just curious. What do people see as the percentages for the responsibility of the effectiveness of a pitcher-catcher battery? 95% pitcher 5% catcher? 80-20? 50-50? Higher? Lower?

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