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It isn't a throw away position. But I think people get too caught up in some magical things that the catcher does to alter the game. Just like any other position, there are varying degrees of ability at the position. Hanigan is near the top behind the plate.
Where the difference comes in, is that I don't believe he is doing something that most other Major League catchers can't come awful close to replicating behind the plate when it comes to what the pitcher does on the mound.
I fully believe that there used to be a much larger variance from catcher to catcher. But in a day and age where you or I can get insanely advanced scouting reports on a hitter in a few minutes or watch hours of video on a single hitter, I feel those days have gone by because there is so much information out there now that used to really only be available by actually being around the league to see everyone.
So where it comes down to for me, is pitch framing, blocking the ball and controlling the running game.
Pitch framing, Hanigan is better, but in limited action last year, Mesoraco actually rated out slightly above-average himself. Blocking pitches is something that both guys also rated out as above-average in last season. Controlling the running game is more than just the catcher. For example, Hanigan catches Cueto. Cueto keeps runners incredibly close because he has insanely quick feet/quick move, so guys can't take big chances on him. When guys do run on him, it gives Hanigan an advantage versus trying to catch a guy without a good move because runners can get an extra step or step and a half. So we are really worrying about two things here: Pop times and accuracy with the throws.
Pop Time wise, both guys are in that 1.85-1.95 range, which is well above-average for a Major League catcher. So we are a wash there really. Accuracy? I honestly don't know. You can judge that one.
At the end of the day, I just feel that while Hanigan is better behind the plate, that it isn't by a whole lot due to the things I laid out above.
Last edited by dougdirt; 04-17-2013 at 06:35 PM.
Mesaraco is pitching a gem tonight, and hitting well too...
Even if Hanigan is the best catcher in baseball at calling a game... if Mes keeps playing like this, he deserves AT LEAST half of the time behind the plate.
When Mes plays as he is tonight, that will start to happen.
If Mes can earn regular playing time and continue to mature as a hitter, he may help replace some of Ludwick's lost production.
Mesoraco's bat plays. He's very good at the plate. If Hannigan can guide him and mould him behind the plate he could become a very special catcher in this league.
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Time to give him starts I think. He seems to always work well with Leake, make him his catcher. Split Cueto's and Latos' starts. He's looking good, showing a good swing, I think he's earned time to get it in a groove.
Tricky. Too bad Mes can't play 1B to give Votto a break now and then.
time for Mes to start getting at least half the starts, his talent is miles beyond Hanigan especially when hanigan is a black hole in the lineup
In the baseball "what have you done for me lately" business, if you perform, you will play. If mez continues to hit and improve his D then he will force the issue.
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