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Thread: Ludwick to 15 day DL; surgery set for Wednesday

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    Re: Ludwick injury - dislocated shoulder

    Quote Originally Posted by reds44 View Post
    I don't think they're going to trade for another OFer with Ludwick under contract next year and Hamilton, at most, a year away.
    I sure hope so. Given the options in L'ville, this is the best move imho. Someone like Rick Ankiel or Mark Morse would be cool.
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    Well, it was cool seeing the Reds have the most complete lineup in my lifetime for a least one game yesterday.

    "Looking forward" to a bunch of Chris Heisey.
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
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    Re: Ludwick injury - dislocated shoulder

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    I sure hope so. Given the options in L'ville, this is the best move imho. Someone like Rick Ankiel or Mark Morse would be cool.
    Michael Morse? Isn't he tearing it up for the Mariners right now?
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    Re: Ludwick injury - dislocated shoulder

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    I don't think they're going to trade for another OFer with Ludwick under contract next year and Hamilton, at most, a year away. I'd move Choo to LF, play Heisey (or Hamilton) in CF, and try to sign Choo to a LTC.

    The only reason NOT to move Choo to LF is if you plan on re-signing Rolen.
    At his age, there's no guarantee that Ludwick ever really recovers from a labrum tear -- especially when his only real game is power.

    You have to consider his contract dead money going forward, IMO.
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    Re: Ludwick injury - dislocated shoulder

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    I don't think they're going to trade for another OFer with Ludwick under contract next year and Hamilton, at most, a year away. I'd move Choo to LF, play Heisey (or Hamilton) in CF, and try to sign Choo to a LTC.
    Alfonso Soriano is the only player that fits the equation. I would rather wait for Hamilton to get his feet wet.
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    At his age, there's no guarantee that Ludwick ever really recovers from a labrum tear -- especially when his only real game is power.

    You have to consider his contract dead money going forward, IMO.
    Hopefully they got insurance on the contract.
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    Alfonso Soriano is the only player that fits the equation. I would rather wait for Hamilton to get his feet wet.
    I really like Soriano and wanted us to get him last year, but he's signed for next year as well (at a ton of money) and he declined a trade to the Giants last year.
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    Michael Morse? Isn't he tearing it up for the Mariners right now?
    Yes, they just got him so he's not going anywhere and Ankiel isn't an upgrade from Heisey.
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    Re: Ludwick injury - dislocated shoulder

    The best thing to do is not to panic.

    Go with Choo in LF and Heisey in CF for a few weeks or longer.

    I would put out the word out among GM's that if anyone has a serious trade offer to consider, the Reds are listening. You might get a reasonable offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    At his age, there's no guarantee that Ludwick ever really recovers from a labrum tear -- especially when his only real game is power.

    You have to consider his contract dead money going forward, IMO.
    I wonder if they insured it?

    Also it's cool that this is a new annual thing for the Reds, signing a key player to a decently sized contract and then losing them for a whole season immediately.
    They don't think it be like it is, but it do.
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    Re: Ludwick injury - dislocated shoulder

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    Michael Morse? Isn't he tearing it up for the Mariners right now?
    He had one hit in the opener yesterday if that qualifies as "tearing it up." I know him well from DC. Love the power and, as much, the work ethic and attitude. He was a much regretted loss here and think he was underrated here and on the market. Someone like that would be gold for the Reds. Easier said than done I know but there are outfielders out there for whom a change of scenery would be a very good thing. I really hope we see a smart trade rather than an ineffective platoon or callup.
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    Re: Ludwick injury - dislocated shoulder

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    Michael Morse? Isn't he tearing it up for the Mariners right now?
    Tearing it up, means he had a good spring training, now?
    The Sox traded Bullfrog the only player they've got for Shottenhoffen. Four-eyes Shottenhoffen a utility infielder. They've got a whole team of utility infielders.

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    Re: Ludwick injury - dislocated shoulder

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Well, it was cool seeing the Reds have the most complete lineup in my lifetime for a least one game yesterday.

    "Looking forward" to a bunch of Chris Heisey.
    It's why you upgrade every opportunity you can -- because you never know when a freak injury like this will force a mediocre ballplayer into your lineup.

    I suspect everyone's comfort levels would be a lot shakier if the Reds hadn't acquired Choo and the team was staring at an indefinite future of Heisey and Stubbs in the everyday-8.
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    Re: Ludwick injury - dislocated shoulder

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    If the choice is Heisey, why wouldn't you put him in center and have Choo play his more natural corner position?
    That's a no-brainer to me.

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    Re: Ludwick injury - dislocated shoulder

    At this point, it almost seems like the best option to call up Hamilton and move Choo to LF. I think Hamilton is ready to learn as a hitter at the major league level, and there is no way he is going to be worse than Choo as a CF.
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