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    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    He would have struck out all 18 if he had a second pitch.
    Well, you know Cingrani has the second best stuff behind Hoover, don't you?
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    Re: Cingrani...

    I watched the game on MiLB, great deal for just 40 bucks, his breaking stuff literally had guys reacting the same way they act when Chapman throws his off speed stuff, there I said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icehole3 View Post
    I watched the game on MiLB, great deal for just 40 bucks, his breaking stuff literally had guys reacting the same way they act when Chapman throws his off speed stuff, there I said it.
    I watched the same game as you. When he threw it correctly, he certainly had them fooled. He threw a few bad ones too though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    It wasn't the same, as in he's using a different pitch, or is wasn't the same, as in it was more effective?

    I'd also argue, as I believe I did last year when we had this discussion, that a cut fastball like Cingrani's is a third pitch. (And, because he can also cut it the other way, a fourth pitch.)
    He is using a different pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Well, you know Cingrani has the second best stuff behind Hoover, don't you?
    I think Chapman, Cueto, Latos, and Bailey might disagree with your opinion, as might Robert Stephenson and perhaps Daniel Corcino.

    Hoover's got a fine wing.

    It's by no means the tops in the system. And, while Cingrani's southpaw is also remarkable, it's not as remarkable, IMO, as are the ones listed above.

    A decade ago, Hoover, Cingrani, and Corcino would have been anchors in the Red rotation. (Add in mid-season grabs 26-year-olds Aaron Harang and Ryan Dempster, and the Reds could have had a decent rotation, had they been patient with Dempster.)

    Look how far they've come, to have those three (plus Chapman) in the pen or AAA.

    Is this the Golden Age of Cincinnati pitching? I'd argue that it's every bit as good as any in their hallowed history, when comparing to league averages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    He is using a different pitch.
    The slurve?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I watched the same game as you. When he threw it correctly, he certainly had them fooled. He threw a few bad ones too though.
    Im good with that but when right this guy's stuff is very very nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by holster10 View Post
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    Did you watch? He did have a second.....and a third pitch although used infrequently. He absolutely buckled a LHB with a great breaking slider for a K.

    A lot of people "skeptics" thought Cingrani would get lit up and struggle as he climbed the minors and it hasn't happened. "Oh, wait until he gets to the next level"..... I love the fact that Cingrani has proved those people wrong. He's a great prospect story.
    Easy there. It was kind of a running joke on this board.
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    Last edited by Scrap Irony; 04-05-2013 at 12:05 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap Irony View Post
    The slurve?
    It looked like a pure curveball to me.

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    Cingrani didnt go 0-2 on everybody so I have to give Doug that, he watches games 10 times closer than I do. I love this guy Cingrani, him and Stephenson are crown jewels IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    It looked like a pure curveball to me.
    when does Travieso start?

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    Quote Originally Posted by icehole3 View Post
    when does Travieso start?
    I didn't see him on the Dayton roster. So, I am assuming he will start the year in Billings. Middle of June if that is the case.
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    Re: Cingrani...

    What TexasDave said

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    my last point then Im gone, this is why I want the Reds to draft 4 SPs in this years draft with the first 5 picks.


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