Alright you guys can keep fighting all you want, but...
Tony Cingrani
IP: 14.1 - H: 3 - BB: 2 - SO: 26 - AVG: .067 - ERA: 0.00
Alright you guys can keep fighting all you want, but...
Tony Cingrani
IP: 14.1 - H: 3 - BB: 2 - SO: 26 - AVG: .067 - ERA: 0.00
I see great things in baseball. It's our game.
So Freddy's great grandpa (edit: AND Edward Scissorhands) and Wolverine's great grandpa are the same guy? Huh. Interesting family. I bet they have the best scrapbook collections.
Last edited by mdccclxix; 04-16-2013 at 09:00 AM.
Great Grampa. Notice the (deformed) right hand tucked away.
It also turns out great Grampa's name is Tony, so we're back on topic.
Great Grampa was also the inspiration for the Swiss Army Knife. Small world.
I watched from the first base side tonight, so I have no idea what anything looked like on TV. With that said, there were zero curveballs thrown from Cingrani tonight for the Reds.
It was hilarious man. It was as if Chris Welsh had been reading this board. He literally started off the broadcast by saying "There is some debate whether Cingrani throws a slider or a curve. He calls it a slider. I guess we'll find out tonight."
I almost fell out of my chair laughing. The slider/curve debate makes it to the Reds' TV broadcast! I'm not joking. And some of you thought it was just a silly RedsZone thing.
My professional opinion? (OK, my "amateur" opinion.) Cingrani throws a "slurve." I was a pitcher back in the day and this is similar to the breaking ball I threw. Not a true slider, not a true curve. Cingrani calls it a slider, but baseball coaches would call that a "slurve." I had no idea what to call the pitch I threw (accidentally invented it while throwing warm-ups one day) and my coach said "You're throwing a slurve." I was like "a slurve?" I had never heard of that term before. But I've heard it several times since and that's exactly what Cingrani is throwing.
Thank goodness he throws it better than I did. Even better: Thank goodness he's left-handed and throws his fastball about 15 MPH faster than I could. (Hey, I was a decent HS pitcher though.)
PS: He did throw some slurves tonight, Doug. Took him until the 4th inning to throw a good one, but he threw a few of them. The vast majority of his pitches were fastballs (of course) and he threw his change more than his slurve. But he did throw his slurve a few times. He had a real good one in the 4th and Welsh immediately said "That was the best breaking ball of the night by far from Cingrani."
Last edited by Blitz Dorsey; 04-19-2013 at 12:50 AM.
Off topic but I truly believe Welsh reads this forum a lot. I noticed how he talked about the slider/curve debate before Cingrani threw a pitch and I've noticed he often brings up things on the broadcast that are heavily debated here and only here. FWIW, I think Chris had developed into a great color man in the past decade.
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I have no idea if he reads it or not, but writers all over the internet have been talking about the "curve" from Cingrani in the past two weeks.
Blitz, I obviously didn't see the game from a TV angle (which is what I am used to watching him from), but looking at the Pitch F/X data I didn't see a slurve. A slurve would have more "horizontal break" than what Cingrani was throwing tonight which had the movement of a traditional slider.
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