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    Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    I don't know how true it is, but I was in the car earlier and one of the Reds postgame radio guys mentioned that Broxton and Chapman would not be available tomorrow against the Cardinals. But if that were the case, you knew going into today that if you used them today, they wouldn't be available tomorrow. Wouldn't it make more sense to use two other guys with a 3 run lead today?

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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I don't know how true it is, but I was in the car earlier and one of the Reds postgame radio guys mentioned that Broxton and Chapman would not be available tomorrow against the Cardinals. But if that were the case, you knew going into today that if you used them today, they wouldn't be available tomorrow. Wouldn't it make more sense to use two other guys with a 3 run lead today?
    Yep. I was thinking they should have brought in Lecure instead of Broxton and left him in there until the end unless he got in trouble.
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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    I was hoping they would bring someone other than Chapman in the 9th for this very reason. I knew they wouldn't use him three days in a row.

    Who do you suppose would be in line for a save tomorrow? Marshall? Hoover? Hopefully they win by 10 and it's a moot question.

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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    I don't mind it at all. Might not need them tomorrow. I MIGHT have thought about letting Broxton or Marshall go 2 today to save Chapman, but you take W's when you can get them. Latos may throw a CG tomorrow for all I know.

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    Yeah, we could be losing tomorrow, we could be up 4, an then it's a moot point anyway. I think it was the right call. Win the series.
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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

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    Yeah, we could be losing tomorrow, we could be up 4, an then it's a moot point anyway. I think it was the right call. Win the series.
    You think our bullpen was going to give up 3 or more runs in 2 innings? Possible, sure. Likely? Not so much.

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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    You think our bullpen was going to give up 3 or more runs in 2 innings? Possible, sure. Likely? Not so much.
    That's easy to say after the fact. If Lecure comes in and gives it up, people gripe the other way. We won. Tomorrow, at this point is an unknown.

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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    You think our bullpen was going to give up 3 or more runs in 2 innings? Possible, sure. Likely? Not so much.
    Of course. It's also more likely than not that they won't be in a position today where they normally use Broxton/Chapman. Even if they are, it isn't likely Marshall and the others will give up runs that Broxton/Chapman wouldn't have.

    In terms of what is likely, any of his options would be fine.
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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    The two extra-inning games over-extended them any way you slice it. No easy answer, but you gotta lock down the Ws you have in hand, so I have no issue with how they handled it today.
    Rounding third and heading for home...

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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by BluegrassRedleg View Post
    The two extra-inning games over-extended them any way you slice it. No easy answer, but you gotta lock down the Ws you have in hand, so I have no issue with how they handled it today.
    Agreed. Especially after losing the game yesterday.

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    I don't really have an issue with how it was handles but I do have an issue with stating they are unavailable tomorrow....even if they are I don't want my coach announcing it to anyone....I want the cardinals to have it in the back if their mind that come late in the game you are going to face our best if we have a small lead.......not to mention if we have a 1 run lead in the 9th then dusty dam well better be getting chapman up in the pen.....he can get his rest later, 1 run games are for chapman. Unless we have 6 games in a row that are 1 run games, I want AC pitching the 9th when we have that one run lead.......

    I also am not so stupid to not understand how this game is played and how and when guys need rest......but announcing it a day early is not my cup of tea. Chapman is intimidating even to major leaguers. He needs to be available almost every game that is close.....if we have a 2 run lead and AC is taxed then I am fine with broxton closing it out but chap is my guy with a one run lead and he should be dusty's also.....that's my issue.

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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    Another infamous "unwritten rule of baseball" mess which is use of closers only in 9th inning saves (which Dusty is a card carrying member of)...is silly. Why Broxton can't finish up the 9th inning today and let Chapman take a rest is more silliness.

    It might not matter tomorrow, but why burn all of our guys on a 3 run lead? Marshall can't toss but an inning as well?

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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by UK Reds Fan View Post
    Another infamous "unwritten rule of baseball" mess which is use of closers only in 9th inning saves (which Dusty is a card carrying member of)...is silly. Why Broxton can't finish up the 9th inning today and let Chapman take a rest is more silliness.

    It might not matter tomorrow, but why burn all of our guys on a 3 run lead? Marshall can't toss but an inning as well?
    Dusty trying to get Chapman his saves. Bugs the crap out of me that a reliever here or there can't go more than 1 lousy inning, especially when they took'em done 3 in a row.

    Broxton should have gone 2 innings and finished the darn thing, to save Chapman for the Cards.
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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post

    Broxton should have gone 2 innings and finished the darn thing, to save Chapman for the Cards.
    Well that's different, when many though that Broxton shouldn't even have pitched in this game.

    IMO, if you had tried to push Brixton into the 9th, you likely would have needed Chapman to come in and rescue him.

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    Re: Chapman and Broxton not available tomorrow?

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Well that's different, when many though that Broxton shouldn't even have pitched in this game.

    IMO, if you had tried to push Brixton into the 9th, you likely would have needed Chapman to come in and rescue him.
    "Likely"?

    You don't know that. That statement assumes alot. And you know what happens when you assume.

    Bring a guy in the 8th and see if he can go 2 innings and finish it up. If he gets in trouble THEN bring in Chapman. Absolutely no reason Dusty can't do that.

    Also, I was hoping that having both Chapman and Broxton might save us from the dreaded "shoulder fatigue" Chapman seems to experience every season. There is no reason Chapman can't get the bulk of the save opportunities and Broxton can't get a few. Great opportunity to not overuse these guys and Dusty already is not taking advantage of it.
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