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    Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    http://nesn.com/2013/04/pete-rose-th...o-get-screwed/

    "I used to get screwed when we had a seven or eight-run lead, because I couldn’t bunt for a single or I’m ‘showing up the opposition'.... [yet] Guys that are home run hitters can continuously just swing from their ass and trot around the bases."

    Pete makes some interesting points regarding acceptable decorum in blowout games and no-hitters. I agree, why not play for a hit (for a singles/line-drive hitter) and take the extra base if it's there? Not sure I would steal bases in "out of reach" games (sorry Yogi), but more for injury risk reasons, than fear of showing up the opposition... unless of course, Bob Gibson or J.R. Richard was the opposition lol

    Curious about different perspectives on the topic.

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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    Pete does not abide by the written rules; therefore, why should I care what he thinks about unwritten rules? No offense to OP, thanks for sharing.
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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedFanAlways1966 View Post
    Pete does not abide by the written rules; therefore, why should I care what he thinks about unwritten rules? No offense to OP, thanks for sharing.
    Let me ask you this: why did you bother to read this thread or to post? Just wanted to make the easy smack down of Pete? It's a clown comment, bro.

    If you don't want to read what Pete thinks about baseball's unwritten rules, don't read the thread. But please don't hijack the thread by attacking Pete. The topic here was supposed to be 'baseball's unwritten rules', and now you turn it into 'Pete has no right to speak since he broke baseball's written rules'. Pete is banned from baseball, but he does have more ABs than any player ever. He certainly still has a right to speak about the sport that he knows so well, and we really don't need every comment he makes to be belittled because of his history. At some point, that history (both bad and good) can be implied.

    Anyway, I think Pete makes an interesting point. The example in the article actually was the bunt single that Ben Davis got off of Curt Schilling in 2001 that spoiled his perfect game, with Schilling's team only ahead by 2 runs at the time. That bunt to spoil the perfect game was called a 'violation of baseball's unwritten rules' at the time, and Pete disagreed: "But down 2-0? I’d bunt, too...". So would I...
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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    Let me ask you this: why did you bother to read this thread or to post? Just wanted to make the easy smack down of Pete? It's a clown comment, bro.

    If you don't want to read what Pete thinks about baseball's unwritten rules, don't read the thread. But please don't hijack the thread by attacking Pete. The topic here was supposed to be 'baseball's unwritten rules', and now you turn it into 'Pete has no right to speak since he broke baseball's written rules'. Pete is banned from baseball, but he does have more ABs than any player ever. He certainly still has a right to speak about the sport that he knows so well, and we really don't need every comment he makes to be belittled because of his history. At some point, that history (both bad and good) can be implied.

    Anyway, I think Pete makes an interesting point. The example in the article actually was the bunt single that Ben Davis got off of Curt Schilling in 2001 that spoiled his perfect game, with Schilling's team only ahead by 2 runs at the time. That bunt to spoil the perfect game was called a 'violation of baseball's unwritten rules' at the time, and Pete disagreed: "But down 2-0? I’d bunt, too...". So would I...
    I don't think he hijacked the thread. He didn't say Pete has no right to do this and that, he just said he doesnt care what Pete thinks because he broke the written rules of baseball. Maybe he coulda been more PC about it, but I hardly think he hijacked a thread. Some people will never get past what he did, he did it, so he and others need to live with the consequences. I value what Pete says about a lot of stuff, but understand how people don't want to hear what he has to say.

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    I care what Pete thinks....IMO, he is the true king of MLB. doing what he did for so long deserves some credit regardless of what he did to get in trouble...If he were in todays game, he would be the highest paid player of all time.....dude could play anywhere and give you great innings, he wasnt just a filler at a spot, he picked it.

    I agree with Pete to an extent......I also agree that if your not trying for a hit when the pitcher has a no hitter going then its not truly a no hitter.....if your backing off from getting that bunt single just because the pitcher has a no hitter going then you just allowed the defense to set up to take away the holes in the infield, making it that much easier for the pitcher to throw a no hitter......I agree that stealing bases in a blowout is uncalled for but if another team wants to take bases then I respect that to a degree, at least they are still playing hard and giving 100%.....dont you dare slide hard into my player or we will have issues but giving less than 100% is never ok in my book, regardless of the score.......I coached little league and I also coach my daughters travel fastpitch team....I dont send runners when we are ahead by more than 10 and I dont give the steal sign when we are up by more than 10....but passed balls are fair game....the only thing I never do is send a player home on a passed ball, to risky in getting the opposing catcher hurt.......

    Pete is correct that these lazy DH only power hitters walk up to the plate and swing away and its ok yet the Juan Pierre's of the MLB get chastised for bunting for hit during a no hitter...makes no sense to me either pete

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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    My mistake was including Pete's name in the thread title. As a longtime ORG observer, I should have expected off-topic derision & snark at the very mention of the man's name; my own monicker, associated with Pete, probably lessens my credibility in the eyes of some. But let's be clear, "baseball's unwritten rules" is a broad topic, with a multitude of interpretations, perspectives and opinions well beyond Pete's, hence please feel free to discuss the topic itself, rather than focusing off-topic on Pete's well-known transgressions.
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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    Pete played his first game as a Red 50 years ago today.

    Yesterday he pitched furniture to me with his wife during the game whilst wearing a fedora and eating donuts.

    Shakespeare would have a field day with that.

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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Pete played his first game as a Red 50 years ago today.

    Yesterday he pitched furniture to me with his wife during the game whilst wearing a fedora and eating donuts.

    Shakespeare would have a field day with that.
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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Pete played his first game as a Red 50 years ago today.

    Yesterday he pitched furniture to me with his wife during the game whilst wearing a fedora and eating donuts.

    Shakespeare would have a field day with that.
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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caveat Emperor View Post
    Wife pointed out, while we were watching the ad during the game, that the advertisement only includes "Two free baseball tickets" -- which, for all we know, could be Florence Freedom seats.
    I had noticed that too. I wonder if they would have had to pay for rights to say Cincinnati Reds, or if it is misdirection to give you Freedom/Bearcat/Muskies baseball tickets.

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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I had noticed that too. I wonder if they would have had to pay for rights to say Cincinnati Reds
    This is how I interpreted the offer, same deal as when businesses offer promotions around "The Big Game" because they can't say Superbowl.

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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I had noticed that too. I wonder if they would have had to pay for rights to say Cincinnati Reds, or if it is misdirection to give you Freedom/Bearcat/Muskies baseball tickets.
    I'd guess his MLB ban would preclude him from appearing in an ad that included giving away MLB tickets, so they probably are giving away tickets to some other game. That's my thought anyway.

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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Serafini View Post
    I'd guess his MLB ban would preclude him from appearing in an ad that included giving away MLB tickets, so they probably are giving away tickets to some other game. That's my thought anyway.
    I don't think MLB can prohibit anyone from giving away Reds tickets. They may have something to say about advertising it, however, although I really don't understand how... My guess is that they are Reds tickets. Someone should call your local store and ask....lol.
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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny Serafini View Post
    I'd guess his MLB ban would preclude him from appearing in an ad that included giving away MLB tickets, so they probably are giving away tickets to some other game. That's my thought anyway.
    What are they going to do if he breaks the rule? Ban him from baseball?

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    Re: Pete Rose on baseball's unwritten rules.

    His point is invalid. He appears to be saying "I'd have gotten more hits were it not for the unwritten rules." OK, that may be true...but in theory then, it's true for everybody. He might as well say he got screwed when told to "take" on a 3-0 count because he woulda gotten more hits swinging away...maybe, but so would everybody else.


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