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    Quote Originally Posted by vaticanplum View Post
    If I know Larry, and after at least three exchanges on a baseball message board I think I do, he was embracing sarcasm.
    Ok. I trust you vp, so I'll take your word for it.

    I squinted and read it 4-5 times and it didn't seem that way. But I was also pretty fed up with the rampant insensitivity, so I probaby should have walked away. My apologies to Larry.

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    Honestly, what BLEEDS has been posting reflects some nonsense that was rampant on a board I previously posted on. I eventually got tired of ranting and began ignoring.

    You know, even if it was all our (and yeah, I'm on similar stuff for the rest of my life--I tried to wean myself and it didn't work) fault, so what? We're all human. We all have imperfections, and we all have bruises.

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    My son is on the autism spectrum. No one is going to tell me a lifestyle change is what he needs. He does go to therapy, but if it weren't for medication to help him he would have a very difficult time getting through a school day. The causes of autism are not perfectly understood, but it is widely agreed that it is a brain difference, therefore we get a free pass when it comes to layman (read inexpert, uninformed, unstudied, anachronistic) advice. Hardly anyone would suggest to us that there is something that needs to be corrected in his thinking, or that his choices are in any way responsible for his being on the spectrum. Most reasonable people understand how absurd that would be. Federal law protects his right to an equal education now whereas fifty years ago he would have been labeled "incorrigible", a shiftless trouble maker who constantly disrupts the class.

    He has a friend who is diagnosed ADD. These two boys have known each other since they were four and I have watched his parents struggle just as we have struggled through raising our son. Only there is one clear difference; trot out a diagnosis of autism and people take notice, usually responding with a lot of leeway. But tell them your kid is ADD, and there is still a hint of disbelief, a suspicion that the kid is really just not being raised right, or that he lacks discipline and motivation, despite the fact that current research is pointing more and more towards clear cognitive, physical differences between typically developed brains and those of people who are ADD.

    Personally, I am no MD, but having worked with my own kid and having read piles of studies, I would be willing to bet that within a generation, ADD will be accepted much in the same way that autism is, as something that comes with a person out of the womb. Therapies will always be important, but if medications will make it easier for a person to function and put into practice the things they learn in therapy, then medicate they must. In our own case, our son was "unreachable", in the words of his therapist, and it was decided that anxiety medication would help him to accept the help he needs. To understand this, one has to understand that everyday functioning for us is like visiting an alien planet for a person with autism. On top of that, humans being social creatures, nearly every interaction they have with another person is fraught with signals they don't understand, requiring huge amounts of thinking and energy just to fit in, or I should say, just to keep from being ostracized. It's no wonder the little guy has anxiety. As for ADD, I think it's largely the same, yet armchair experts insist on clinging to outdated notions of discipline, mental toughness, parenting, choices. These people, frankly, are idiots who are more wrong with each passing day.
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    I've had ADD my whole freaking life and I can assure you no lifestyle change could change that, the fact is I'm wired differently than others.

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    Re: "The Rest of Your Life"

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    I've had ADD my whole freaking life and I can assure you no lifestyle change could change that, the fact is I'm wired differently than others.
    It may explain why you're posting at 5:10 in the AM, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunDeck View Post
    It may explain why you're posting at 5:10 in the AM, too.
    That and I had to let the cat out

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    That and I had to let the cat out
    Clearly, if your cat could get its act together, maybe make some better lifestyle choices, then you would't have to be its crutch anymore and you could sleep in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raisor View Post
    A little backstory.

    A few of you know, most of you don't, that a few years ago I went a little "off". And by "off" I came pretty close to killing myself.

    It took going "away" for awhile, changing jobs, moving to a new city, and buying a house (and having an awesome wife) for me to get all the way back to were I used to be.

    Oh, and some really good prescription medicine and doctors.

    Anyway, had my quarterly checkup today, and was told by the doc that I'm going to have to be on prozac for the rest of my life.

    I probably should be weirded out by that, but I'm not.

    At all.

    My mom is upset. (Haven't told my wife yet since she's at work). Mom doesn't like the idea of her son having to be on mood altering meds for the rest of his life.

    I figure, I feel great, why take the chance of going back to what I was?

    Just felt like sharing.
    Life is hard and this is a major quality of life issue. In ten years, research might make the current prognosis of lifelong prozac irrelevant. But in the interim, do what you have to do and don't apologize about it to people who couldn't possibly understand anyway.

    But as a personal aside, I've suffered all my life with being exceptionally happy, even uncontrollably giddy for stretches. My doctor prescribed becoming a diehard mariners fan and it largely has helped temper my exuberant enthusiasm and penchant for being overly hopeful about the future. Fortunately, this too looks to be a lifelong therapy. But you just never know.
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    If someone actually uses the word "sheeple" in a non-ironic way there's a good chance they are not bright. Perhaps not 100% correlation, but very close.

    Raisor, I'm glad you are doing better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    If someone actually uses the word "sheeple" in a non-ironic way there's a good chance they are not bright. Perhaps not 100% correlation, but very close.

    Raisor, I'm glad you are doing better.

    There are a lot of topics RedsZone does really poorly, shame.
    Maybe this is just another poster child example for the concept that not all opinions are equally informed and therefore not all opinions are equal?
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    Re: "The Rest of Your Life"

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    If you don't mind me asking, what kind of pain are you in and did you get injured or is it from something else?
    This thread has absolutely blown up since I last check in - wow. But no, I don't mind your asking.

    Right around the MLB playoffs in 2003 I started experiencing extreme pain in my left leg and groin area. I've been to every doctor in the book - family doctor, chiropractor, urologist (4 or 5 different ones - the pain is largely testicular, although it does radiate into other areas, ie. the leg), neurologist, pain management specialists, medical massage, you name it - I've been there.

    And as we speak, I'm in pain.

    I honestly have no idea what caused it. I have my theories, but no concrete reason. If I had to guess, I got it from playing baseball. I was a pitcher with a big, high leg kick. My neurologist thinks maybe years of pitching caused my to stretch out my Ilioinguinal or Genitofemoral nerve but there's really no way of proving that.

    I went all the way to the University of Michigan for testing to try and see if that may be it, but the tests were inconclusive. Go figure.

    So, 10 years and 398548 doctor visits and tests later - I'm still on pain with no end in sight. And there are no shortage of people who will line up to tell me I should just suck it up and deal with it. My response is usually "Here, let me kick you in the [male genitalia] and see if you're just fine dealing with it."


    People who aren't depressed will always say those who are don't need meds. And people who don't experience chronic pain will always tell those who that they don't need meds. It's absolutely mind boggling.
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    Re: "The Rest of Your Life"

    Quote Originally Posted by Redsfaithful View Post
    If someone actually uses the word "sheeple" in a non-ironic way there's a good chance they are not bright. Perhaps not 100% correlation, but very close.

    Raisor, I'm glad you are doing better.

    There are a lot of topics RedsZone does really poorly, shame.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    You need to get bent. You have a terrible attitude and don't appear to be all that intelligent in the first place. You sure as hell aren't when it comes to this subject, at the absolute least.

    regardless of opinions, this is the kind of stuff that ruins redszone

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Operator View Post
    This thread has absolutely blown up since I last check in - wow. But no, I don't mind your asking.

    Right around the MLB playoffs in 2003 I started experiencing extreme pain in my left leg and groin area. I've been to every doctor in the book - family doctor, chiropractor, urologist (4 or 5 different ones - the pain is largely testicular, although it does radiate into other areas, ie. the leg), neurologist, pain management specialists, medical massage, you name it - I've been there.

    And as we speak, I'm in pain.

    I honestly have no idea what caused it. I have my theories, but no concrete reason. If I had to guess, I got it from playing baseball. I was a pitcher with a big, high leg kick. My neurologist thinks maybe years of pitching caused my to stretch out my Ilioinguinal or Genitofemoral nerve but there's really no way of proving that.

    I went all the way to the University of Michigan for testing to try and see if that may be it, but the tests were inconclusive. Go figure.

    So, 10 years and 398548 doctor visits and tests later - I'm still on pain with no end in sight. And there are no shortage of people who will line up to tell me I should just suck it up and deal with it. My response is usually "Here, let me kick you in the [male genitalia] and see if you're just fine dealing with it."
    I completely understand your frustration and can sympathize with you. That sounds awful.

    Have you been checked out by an orthopedic back specialist for a herniated disc or some type of back/spinal injury? I'm assuming you have given the amount of tests you've been through, but I thought I'd ask. I'm not a doctor, but I have my own experience with a herniated disc and there's a small chance it might help you a bit.

    Last March I suffered a herniated disc in my back at L5/S1, which is basically at the lower back/top of the butt. I knew exactly when I did it, because my back popped loudly right in that area and a vibrating sensation shot all the way down my left leg to my toes. Back pain was awful for about five days, and then somehow all the pain disappeared for a few days so I thought I was in the clear. I was (and still am) an avid gym rat so I even tried going back to the gym a few times, however after a few more days suddenly pain started creeping up in my left hamstring and outer left butt along my piriformis muscle.

    A few more days later I could barely walk. Even sitting down was awful. I couldn't tie my own shoelaces, couldn't get my pants on, couldn't get up or down stairs and couldn't get out of my car (among many other things). All this pain was leg and outer butt pain, though, no back pain at all.

    After a month of dealing with nonstop pain I finally got to the orthopedic, and he prescribed naproxen and a muscle relaxer and had me schedule an MRI. The naproxen helped with the pain a little, but not much - I still couldn't tie my own shoelaces or anything. The muscle relaxer did nothing but make me feel loopy so I stopped taking that after four or five days. The MRI showed the bulging disc, and the doctor said it was bad enough that I was a candidate for back surgery. Back surgery was the last thing on my mind so I asked for other treatment options, notably physical therapy (my dad swore by physical therapy). He finally agreed to prescribe physical therapy and also had me go in for a spinal injection.

    The spinal injection gave me relief for exactly one day, and then I was back in the same brutal leg pain as before. I still had zero back pain though. Therapy started a week after the injection, and I went in having no clue how in the world I'd be able to do anything. Like my dad, I soon found out that physical therapy is a godsend. The first few sessions had only slight improvements, but within three weeks the pain was entirely gone. Therapy started out primarily with leg stretching to get the pain out of my leg, then later sessions involved lots of core strengthening exercises to build up my deep core muscles and provide support to my lower back and the bulging disc. It felt like a miracle that I improved so much in three weeks.

    As I would soon find out, all my leg pain was due to my bulging disc putting pressure on my sciatic nerve. My sciatic nerve would then tighten and squeeze my hamdstring and piriformis so much I was immobile. I felt nothing at all in the actual spot where the disc was pinning my sciatic nerve, but I felt everything in my butt/piriformis and down my hamstring. Chronic pain, especially nerve pain due to spinal or disc issues, tends to work that way. You might have pain in one or multiple areas of your body, but the actual source of the problem could be somewhere totally different where you feel no pain at all.

    It's 13 months later, and I've been back in the gym full tilt doing everything I want to do with the exception of squats (I'll never do those again, too much weight and pressure downward on my spine). I've played softball and golf too. I still have my herniated disc, though - I'll have it the rest of my life. I've integrated some of my therapy exercises into my workouts, and that's generally enough. I still get periodic twinges. Just yesterday I felt a small twinge in my left hamstring so I immediately did my leg stretches in my living room. This morning I woke up and the twinge was gone. That's typically how it goes nowadays.

    A good friend of mine also battled a herniated disc last year too. Unlike mine where I injured it suddenly and felt it, he didn't have one moment where he injured it. Rather his disc slip was due to years of wear and tear (he also pitched in high school).

    Anyway, sorry for the long rant, but even if there's a one percent chance that my experience could help you then it was worth it. Chronic pain stinks. Keep researching it and keep talking about it. There's bound to be other people suffering from exactly what you are suffering from, and some people may have found good treatment that works and could help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclone792 View Post
    I completely understand your frustration and can sympathize with you. That sounds awful.

    Have you been checked out by an orthopedic back specialist for a herniated disc or some type of back/spinal injury? I'm assuming you have given the amount of tests you've been through, but I thought I'd ask. I'm not a doctor, but I have my own experience with a herniated disc and there's a small chance it might help you a bit.

    Last March I suffered a herniated disc in my back at L5/S1, which is basically at the lower back/top of the butt. I knew exactly when I did it, because my back popped loudly right in that area and a vibrating sensation shot all the way down my left leg to my toes. Back pain was awful for about five days, and then somehow all the pain disappeared for a few days so I thought I was in the clear. I was (and still am) an avid gym rat so I even tried going back to the gym a few times, however after a few more days suddenly pain started creeping up in my left hamstring and outer left butt along my piriformis muscle.

    A few more days later I could barely walk. Even sitting down was awful. I couldn't tie my own shoelaces, couldn't get my pants on, couldn't get up or down stairs and couldn't get out of my car (among many other things). All this pain was leg and outer butt pain, though, no back pain at all.

    After a month of dealing with nonstop pain I finally got to the orthopedic, and he prescribed naproxen and a muscle relaxer and had me schedule an MRI. The naproxen helped with the pain a little, but not much - I still couldn't tie my own shoelaces or anything. The muscle relaxer did nothing but make me feel loopy so I stopped taking that after four or five days. The MRI showed the bulging disc, and the doctor said it was bad enough that I was a candidate for back surgery. Back surgery was the last thing on my mind so I asked for other treatment options, notably physical therapy (my dad swore by physical therapy). He finally agreed to prescribe physical therapy and also had me go in for a spinal injection.

    The spinal injection gave me relief for exactly one day, and then I was back in the same brutal leg pain as before. I still had zero back pain though. Therapy started a week after the injection, and I went in having no clue how in the world I'd be able to do anything. Like my dad, I soon found out that physical therapy is a godsend. The first few sessions had only slight improvements, but within three weeks the pain was entirely gone. Therapy started out primarily with leg stretching to get the pain out of my leg, then later sessions involved lots of core strengthening exercises to build up my deep core muscles and provide support to my lower back and the bulging disc. It felt like a miracle that I improved so much in three weeks.

    As I would soon find out, all my leg pain was due to my bulging disc putting pressure on my sciatic nerve. My sciatic nerve would then tighten and squeeze my hamdstring and piriformis so much I was immobile. I felt nothing at all in the actual spot where the disc was pinning my sciatic nerve, but I felt everything in my butt/piriformis and down my hamstring. Chronic pain, especially nerve pain due to spinal or disc issues, tends to work that way. You might have pain in one or multiple areas of your body, but the actual source of the problem could be somewhere totally different where you feel no pain at all.

    It's 13 months later, and I've been back in the gym full tilt doing everything I want to do with the exception of squats (I'll never do those again, too much weight and pressure downward on my spine). I've played softball and golf too. I still have my herniated disc, though - I'll have it the rest of my life. I've integrated some of my therapy exercises into my workouts, and that's generally enough. I still get periodic twinges. Just yesterday I felt a small twinge in my left hamstring so I immediately did my leg stretches in my living room. This morning I woke up and the twinge was gone. That's typically how it goes nowadays.

    A good friend of mine also battled a herniated disc last year too. Unlike mine where I injured it suddenly and felt it, he didn't have one moment where he injured it. Rather his disc slip was due to years of wear and tear (he also pitched in high school).

    Anyway, sorry for the long rant, but even if there's a one percent chance that my experience could help you then it was worth it. Chronic pain stinks. Keep researching it and keep talking about it. There's bound to be other people suffering from exactly what you are suffering from, and some people may have found good treatment that works and could help.
    I've had a bulging disc my whole life and I hear you, I can go weeks without pain and then BOOM... 2 weeks of butt pain, leg pain, lower back spasms. No running, no biking, nothing but pain.

    Then it's gone... only to return at a later date.

    Mine is caused by the fact that I have an extra backbone that pushes up on my bottom disc causes it to bulge.

    It's pain that I live with and pain that is not likely to ever leave for good.

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    regardless of opinions, this is the kind of stuff that ruins redszone
    No, I'm sorry to be blunt, but posts like the one I quoted are the problem. Sometimes a spade is just a spade.
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