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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    Joey Votto just isn't as good as people think.
    I agree. He's better.

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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    212 plate appearances without a dinger.

    At some point, you have to at least run into one?
    With the same start last year....he had a 500+ slugging, now at .337.

    I agree that there's a mental aspect to this, and I think he'll get it going pretty quickly.
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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    Quote Originally Posted by Gainesville Red View Post
    From Fay's twitter today:

    Votto was hitting .290 with 9 Ks and 3 XBHs after 9 games last year. This year: .290, 9K, 2 XBHs. #reds @Cincienquirer
    I'll take that a step further.

    In 2010 after 9 games, Votto was hitting .278 with 11 Ks and 2 XBHs.

    He finished that year as the NL MVP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeilHamburger View Post
    Votto has always been a slow starter. I'm not sure why, some guys just are. But, once he gets going watch out.
    I've read before (can't remember where) that Joey spend most of Spring and part of April just eyeing the ball and mentally swinging at pitches to get the timing down in his head, and that's the train why he's a slow starter. If that's true, adding that with not being comfortable with his swing just yet and that would lead to not so many crushed balls and a ton of walks.

    I'm not worried about Joey not being 100% at some point in the season. I am worried about him having another injury, and another decision being vmade to let him play on it before getting it fixed...And then having yet another surgery to fix it further because the first one didn't do the whole job.

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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    212 plate appearances without a dinger.

    At some point, you have to at least run into one?
    With the same start last year....he had a 500+ slugging, now at .337.

    I agree that there's a mental aspect to this, and I think he'll get it going pretty quickly.
    he was never right after he came back + it's not like jay bruce has hit 1 so far either. yes they will run into some tho. votto was about 2 inches of hitting 1 also.

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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    Quote Originally Posted by R_Webb18 View Post
    For someone that pulls the ball like Votto does it take long to get your timing down since you have swing later?
    Meh. To me, Joey has always been a guy who hits the ball all over the field. I don't consider him a pull hitter.
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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    I have a theory on why. By his own admission, in spring he flat out just takes pitches. He doesn't swing much, but watches pitch after pitch after pitch to try and get that pitch recognition thing going.

    That probably means that unlike most guys, his swing just isn't as ready as some others and it takes him a little bit of time to get it going to the point where we expect it.
    Yep...this makes sense. His swing takes some warming up, but it's part of the reason he's already so good with pitch recognition. He's already been walked more than any other player in baseball by a significant margin (relative to the length of the season) and he'll almost undoubtedly lead the league in walks if he stays healthy this year.

    People have been calling him overrated, etc. already...but that's just ridiculous. Votto might be the best pure batter in the league.
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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Meh. To me, Joey has always been a guy who hits the ball all over the field. I don't consider him a pull hitter.
    Not a pull hitter at all. Uses the whole field.
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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    Quote Originally Posted by NeilHamburger View Post
    Votto has always been a slow starter. I'm not sure why, some guys just are. But, once he gets going watch out.
    He must kick butt in the 2nd half of April for most of his career because his slash line for March/April is .318/.433/.539.

    In the end, he is not far off from his usual numbers. If he hits a couple of home runs or a few doubles in the upcoming series his number will be over his average. Like many of these threads, way too early to tell anything.

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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    Quote Originally Posted by RANDY IN INDY View Post
    Not a pull hitter at all. Uses the whole field.
    On the ground he is a pull hitter, but that is most likely due to the fact when he hits a ground ball it's an off speed pitch with some downward movement. In the air, he actually goes the other way more. That is why you will see interesting defenses against him where the infield will actually sometimes use the shift for a pull hitter but the outfield will be straight away to even shading him to go the other way.

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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    Quote Originally Posted by Gainesville Red View Post
    From Fay's twitter today:

    Votto was hitting .290 with 9 Ks and 3 XBHs after 9 games last year. This year: .290, 9K, 2 XBHs. #reds @Cincienquirer
    See! He's CLEARLY not where he was before. 1 less XBH. That's huge!
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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    Quote Originally Posted by redsrule2500 View Post
    Votto implying that he's still not over his injury from last Summer. Surprised it's taken so long and he's still not over the injury.
    I can believe it. It took me about 18 months to completely get over the knee injury that I had in my early 20's.
    I'm sure Votto got better care than I did, but knees take time.

    Also, I think part of that statement might just be part of Votto's laid back/humble attitude. He just doesn't seem the type that will say "Yep, I'm awesome".
    "I'm getting there" seems more like his talk to the press.
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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    See! He's CLEARLY not where he was before. 1 less XBH. That's huge!
    Not only that but his XBH have dropped 33%! 33% I tell you.

    I vaguely remember Larkin having a reputation as a slow starter.
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    Re: Joey Votto - "I'm getting there."

    I don't think he was saying he's not over his knee injury. He's just saying he's not comfortable with his swing yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Norm Chortleton View Post
    The old Votto is back when he starts cussing himself out between pitches.


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