In the brawl tonight with San Diego.
Carlos Quentin is in for a nice long suspension
In the brawl tonight with San Diego.
Carlos Quentin is in for a nice long suspension
Do you get extra games for someone getting hurt? It can always happen if there is a brawl.
This is getting crazy. Marty Caswell, a reporter in the LA area just tweeted this:
Players just ran out of Dodgers clubhouse...appears Matt Kemp and Carlos Quentin went after it in players parking lot
Its insane and im guessing he's out months?
I'm wondering as well what the time frame on his return is.
I think the general timetable is 6-8 weeks, but I didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.Originally Posted by MikeThierry
Unless Grienke verbally threatened Quentin's children or grandmother, Quentin comes off as a real jerk here.
Quentin is/was a fool for thinking it was intentional. Why would he or anyone think Greinke would want to hit him on the 6th pitch of the AB at 88 pitches in a 2-1 game to start the 6th when the first 5 weren't anywhere close to him? If for some reason they were stupid enough to hit him it wouldn't have taken 6 tries to do so and if it did everyone would have caught on by 2 or 3 attempts.
The fact he did plunk him resulted in a ND so that should show how dumb it was to think it was intentional. They should have 15 more times to get him this year later rather than doing it in that spot. Also Mattingly should get credit for a BS in that as he used Capuano to face Yonder who owns him at 4-for-10 with a BB before tying the game up as the next hitter.
They would never be able to do it since the MLBPA would flip but I wish he would get suspended for as long as Greinke is out just for being so ignorant to the situation. The dude is already 49th All-time in HBP and has just played 710 games and was hit the same amount of times in just 402 Minor league games so its clearly a major part of his game and his own fault so its unbelievably dumb to get upset at all.
Last edited by HometownHero; 04-12-2013 at 03:31 AM.
Quentin should get no longer suspension than anybody else does for a normal brawl. Just because he actually did some damage (which happens when grown men are fighting) doesn't mean he deserves anything but the norm. I mean, when a dude charges the mound what do you think he's trying to do? He's trying to beat the hell out of the guy. Why else would you charge the mound? It's not like Quentin went out there and whacked him with his bat or something. He was a bigger guy. Grienke decided to throw a shoulder into him, and you see the results.
Cueto literally ended Jason LaRue's career and all he got was the norm. I hope anybody who calls for Quentin sitting out until Grienke gets back thinks Cueto should have been kicked out of baseball. If baseball was really interested in stopping brawls (they aren't) it would have started putting in stricker penalties a long time ago.
As for Quentin, I agree there's no way it was intentional, but Quentin gets hit ALL the time and this was his 3rd HBP against Grienke. I understand how he could be angry, even if it wasn't intentional. If you look at the video, Quentin wasn't charging the mound either until Grienke said something to him.
Last edited by reds44; 04-12-2013 at 04:30 AM.
But he didn't say anything until after Quentin turned after getting hit and started to stare him down. That 3rd HBP was in his 32nd PA and isn't near as often as he's been hit by others so he shouldn't even looked out to the mound since getting hit is such a big part of his game.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...ubmitter=1&z=1
LaRue's career was already over.
Quentin will probably get the usual. Yet you can bet his already high hbp numbers will go up. I am sure there are pitchers league wide who will gladly put one in his earhole after this.
As for him charging the mound at a weird time, I can pretty much guarantee before the game he was thinking "if he hits me, I am charging the mound." It didn't really matter the count or the point in the game. Some guys just get it in their head certain players have it out for them and logic just doesn't apply.
As for only charging once Greinke said something, Quentin was already walking towards the mound. It looked to me like Greinke just said "what?" and then Quentin charged. Quentin already had charging the mound on his mind.
Last edited by scott91575; 04-12-2013 at 05:15 AM.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big...urn=mlb,261606
Larue wan't in the game when the fight broke out. He ended his own career when he left the bench. Carpenter can be blamed too for reigniting the fight by yelling at Baker. Molina and Phillips started the thing in the first place. The guys who had the Reds ace penned against a screen can also take some blame. The fight was not started by Cueto and many folks can take the blame.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=10812129
Last edited by klw; 04-12-2013 at 08:33 AM.
Quite honestly, I've always thought LaRue's career ended because he simply wasn't a very good baseball player anymore.
His career wasn't already over. Yeah he sucked, but Cueto literally ended his career. He never played again because Cueto dome rocked him with spikes.
Cueto gave him a concussion. The 7th or whatever number it was concussion Cueto gave him had just as much of a part in ending his career as the previous 6. He didn't go from completely healthy to career ended due to that brawl.
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