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    Re: UK Basketball DY9ASTY Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    What are you a fan of? UK or the NBA? What is your utmost concern? That should be Cal's as well. His job is not to get guys to the next level, it is to win at Kentucky. His recruiting practices or should I say the guys he targets has issues. At some point where does being the "minor leagues" to the NBA have its drawbacks? I would say UK this year and last.

    Cal evidently is a good/great coach or he wouldn't have taken 3 different teams to the FF. But the recruiting practices I raise an eyebrow to. You just cant count on freshmen year in and year out and I don't care if they are McDonald's All-American or not.

    BTW......Duke has had plenty of guys leave early the past decade. Funny how the whole team are Sociology majors.
    UK obviously but the two go hand in hand. Cal's track record of getting guys to the next level is what makes him popular with the top recruits. It's a matter of getting those recruits to play together.
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    Looks like the Cal to the NBA rumors are starting back up.
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    I think it's silly that any UK fan would want Calipari gone. You're not gonna win it all every year, and he's got a title and a final four in recent years. No system is perfect and his is gonna have its flaws as well, but it's not like this team couldn't make the final four as a 9 seed. They're inconsistent, that's a heck of a lot better than being bad.

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    Any UK fan who honestly wants Cal to leave is foolish, IMO.

    These past two years notwithstanding, how many teams would trade their last 5 seasons for ours? That's a long list.

    I'm still rolling with Cal.

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    Re: UK Basketball DY9ASTY Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by WMR View Post
    Any UK fan who honestly wants Cal to leave is foolish, IMO.

    These past two years notwithstanding, how many teams would trade their last 5 seasons for ours? That's a long list.

    I'm still rolling with Cal.
    Yeah, its not always gonna work out just right but with his system I'd say a couple times every 5 years things will go Cal's way and he'll take a team to the Final Four. Don't know who could be upset with that.
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    Re: UK Basketball DY9ASTY Edition

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    Any UK fan who honestly wants Cal to leave is foolish, IMO.

    These past two years notwithstanding, how many teams would trade their last 5 seasons for ours? That's a long list.

    I'm still rolling with Cal.
    It is funny how the "what have you done for me lately" mentality comes out sometimes at big time programs. I have been guilty of it myself. But it is what it is concerning Cal's success. He took UMass to the FF, he resurrected a Memphis program, and he has been working his majic at Kentucky. So it wasn't so good last year. There will be years like that. So this season doesn't meet expectations. There will be years like that. There is no bigger job in college basketball through the years than being the head man at UK. The 'Cats have theirselves a fine coach at the helm.

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    Any UK fan who honestly wants Cal to leave is foolish, IMO.

    These past two years notwithstanding, how many teams would trade their last 5 seasons for ours? That's a long list.

    I'm still rolling with Cal.
    I'm not saying I want Cal to leave, I'm saying my feelings wouldn't be hurt if he did.

    I'll wait and reserve more judgment after the season , but the next two games will tell a lot. Cal says he will be the coach his players need, and they don't need a micromanager. I'm hoping he takes the reins off and let's them play without worrying about what his reaction will be.

    I'm just hoping some of these players come back. If anything to show that Kentucky isn't just a one year pitstop of mediocrity before they cash in at the NBA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    I'm not saying I want Cal to leave, I'm saying my feelings wouldn't be hurt if he did.

    I'll wait and reserve more judgment after the season , but the next two games will tell a lot. Cal says he will be the coach his players need, and they don't need a micromanager. I'm hoping he takes the reins off and let's them play without worrying about what his reaction will be.

    I'm just hoping some of these players come back. If anything to show that Kentucky isn't just a one year pitstop of mediocrity before they cash in at the NBA.
    I understand WV....but let me ask you this. If Cal leaves who you gonna get? Not many guys are cut out for the pressure cooker that is in Lexington. Who wants to step up and be the next Eddie Sutton, Billy Gillespie, or even Tubby Smith?

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    A one year pit stop of mediocrity?

    Damn.

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    A one year pit stop of mediocrity?

    Damn.
    Kinda sums up the last two years doesn't it?

    Granted this season's story isn't finished, but as I said I'll reserve further judgment until after the season to see who's coming back.
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    Re: UK Basketball DY9ASTY Edition

    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    I understand WV....but let me ask you this. If Cal leaves who you gonna get? Not many guys are cut out for the pressure cooker that is in Lexington. Who wants to step up and be the next Eddie Sutton, Billy Gillespie, or even Tubby Smith?
    If Cal leaves, it will be on his own accord for another NBA job -- Why he'd want to do that, program builder that he is, I don't know -- so it is an entirely different dynamic than if Indiana were to jettison Crean a year from now with, as Hoosier Red put it, the thanks, but we can do better mantra, which, IMO, puts more pressure on the incoming coach than if the departing coach leaves on his own accord.

    Given that, an up-and-coming tireless recruiter -- Josh Paster, for example -- may well be excited by the prospects of establishing a Pitino-like or even Rupp-like legacy.
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    If Cal leaves, it will be on his own accord for another NBA job -- Why he'd want to do that, program builder that he is, I don't know -- so it is an entirely different dynamic than if Indiana were to jettison Crean a year from now with, as Hoosier Red put it, the thanks, but we can do better mantra, which, IMO, puts more pressure on the incoming coach than if the departing coach leaves on his own accord.

    Given that, an up-and-coming tireless recruiter -- Josh Paster, for example -- may well be excited by the prospects of establishing a Pitino-like or even Rupp-like legacy.
    I think my top pick would be the WSU coach.

    Pastner needs more seasoning.

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    I think my top pick would be the WSU coach.

    Pastner needs more seasoning.
    Gregg Marshall is the only one I would even consider.

    One coach that would take the job in a heartbeat is Travis Ford, and I think most UK fans would rather keep the status quo if Ford is even in the mix.
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    Re: UK Basketball DY9ASTY Edition

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    I think my top pick would be the WSU coach.

    Pastner needs more seasoning.
    Agreed, especially if Cal were to leave at the conclusion of this season.

    OTOH, there is no doubt that Marshall can coach, it's been evident since his days at Winthrop.
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    Marshall would be an odd fit for UK with his personality. I like him a lot, but there's a reason he stayed at Winthrop so long and hasn't left WSU yet. He's a different sort of guy. I think there's even a chance he'd turn down UK to stary at WSU. He says he turned down UCLA last year.

    I think he'd sort of relish the villain role, though, so UK might be a better fit for him than some other places.


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