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    2013 Cardinals Discussion

    The Cardinals now have allowed just one 1 over the last 31 innings and none in the last 26, and its likely to keep going as the Brewers have one of the worst lineups ever with so many guys hurt and the two names playing aren't 100% with Weeks not being the same player since getting hurt and Braun playing with a hurt neck and can't reach anything on the outer half and has struck out in 5 of 6 AB this series.

    Cardinals get one on a two strike RBI by Wainwright that would have been a liner to SS if the infield wasn't playing in due to a WP advancing a runner to 3rd. Yovani Gallardo is 1-9 vs St Louis heading for 1-10 vs 68-34 against all other teams. He's also 0-1 in the playoffs vs STL.

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    Lat night Braun dives for a ball and the ground knocks it out of his glove leading to the first run, today Jay lays out for a dive and hold on to a snow cone catch and the next guy hits a doubles with two outs but was stranded to run, now up to 29 scoreless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    Yovani Gallardo came in with an amazing 6.72 career ERA in 14 starts vs the Cardinals to go with that 1-9 record and he had a strong 5 innings but has now imploded in the 6th.

    Wainwright gets infield single his 2nd of the game, Jay a single into LF, HBP and then Holliday nearly decapitates him with a liner back at him to make it 3-0, he gets a pop up for the first out but then Craig lines one into center to push it to 4-0 and he's pulled leaving two on and one out.

    Badenhop helps it go from bad to worse for Gallardo as he give up a RBI single to Molina to make it 5-0, gets Freese and then whoever this 5th sting guy playing 1B for the Brewers is lets a ball go right between his legs to make it 6-0 and then Wainwright makes it 7-0 to go 3-for-3 today and has two hits in the 6th while the Brewers have 2 hits all game. Mike Gonzalez comes in a Jay makes it 8-0 on a single before getting Carpenter to end the innings.

    Wainwright has 1 more RBI today that the Cardinals pitchers have gave up in last 33 innings.
    Are you sure you're not a card's fan?

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    Re: Scoreboard Watching 2013

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    Are you sure you're not a card's fan?
    Nope I watch whoever is contending with us and in the NL. I would be more than happy for the Cardinals to start losing 100 games a year and watch whoever moves up from the Pirates, Cubs or Brewers and not watch a single Cards AB unless they played us or another contender.

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    32 scoreless now for the Cardinals as they get their 3rd shutout in a row for the first time since 1988. They have allowed 1 run and just 16 hits in 4 games since our 9 run inning. Their SP have drove in 3 over the same period and have matched a quarter of total hits they've allowed which seems about right for the Pixy Dust kings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    32 scoreless now for the Cardinals as they get their 3rd shutout in a row for the first time since 1988. They have allowed 1 run and just 16 hits in 4 games since our 9 run inning. Their SP have drove in 3 over the same period and have matched a quarter of total hits they've allowed which seems about right for the Pixy Dust kings.
    and the whole pixie dust thing (aka skill) continues!!!
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    Re: Scoreboard Watching 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeThierry View Post
    and the whole pixie dust thing (aka skill) continues!!!
    Skill schmill ... the luckiest team in sports continues to get smiled upon by the baseball gods. #STLdealwiththedevil

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    and the whole pixie dust thing (aka skill) continues!!!
    Yeah no luck at all to that .400 BA with RISP as it happens all the time or that 32 straight scoreless innings on the back of 3 shutouts in a row for the first time in 25 years all while leading the NL in two our runs. They have the skill to be 2nd in the NL in total runs despite being 14th in walks and 10th in OPS while being dead last with one SB attempted and slightly below average in HR.

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    Yeah no luck at all to that .400 BA with RISP as it happens all the time or that 32 straight scoreless innings on the back of 3 shutouts in a row for the first time in 25 years all while leading the NL in two our runs. They have the skill to be 2nd in the NL in total runs despite being 14th in walks and 10th in OPS while being dead last with one SB attempted and slightly below average in HR.
    Luck has nothing to do with the starting pitching. Beginning with Garcia's start in the first game of the cincy stl series the cards starting pitching has been downright filthy. SP is king. As a reds fan, you above all should understand that

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    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    Yeah no luck at all to that .400 BA with RISP as it happens all the time or that 32 straight scoreless innings on the back of 3 shutouts in a row for the first time in 25 years all while leading the NL in two our runs. They have the skill to be 2nd in the NL in total runs despite being 14th in walks and 10th in OPS while being dead last with one SB attempted and slightly below average in HR.
    Is there a river that needs to be cried somewhere?

    I love how you cherry pick stats there. One SB attempted... really? The Cards were pretty much last in SB in 2011 and had far and away the best offense in the NL that year. SB is a negative play in modern baseball anyway. The Cards have a lot of guys who career numbers are great in RISP situations so I don't know why you seem shocked at this. I will give you that they will not continue to hit .400 with RISP the rest of the year but at the same time they have guys who have done it their entire career.

    Go ahead and keep on denying that the Cards at least have some skill. I mean there was that Wainwright character who threw a complete game shutout with 12 K's and Shelby Miller is living up to his billing as one of the best pitching prospects in baseball. You're probably going to have some convoluted argument as to Miller's success thus far just like you do with your "PCL is a hitters league" argument with the prospects they have.

    You can discount the offense if you want but the starting pitching is what has gotten it done for them.
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    Re: Scoreboard Watching 2013

    The SB stat was used to show they weren't getting a tons of extra bases off steals to cover up the fact the have all these runs with low OPS. Hitting with RISP isn't a skill and you just can't magically decide to get hits with RISP, you are a total fool if you think having a RISP of .400 100 AB into the season isn't lucky when its about .150 higher than the league average.

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    Offensive stats don't mean jack at this point of the season. Cards are where they are because of what their starting pitching has done since the start of the SF series. That and Phat Adams

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    Re: Scoreboard Watching 2013

    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    32 scoreless now for the Cardinals as they get their 3rd shutout in a row for the first time since 1988. They have allowed 1 run and just 16 hits in 4 games since our 9 run inning. Their SP have drove in 3 over the same period and have matched a quarter of total hits they've allowed which seems about right for the Pixy Dust kings.
    Cardinals are the team to beat in the central, their starting pitching is sooo good 1-5 that it can mask a weak bullpen and their hitting is pretty good too

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    Re: Scoreboard Watching 2013

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    Offensive stats don't mean jack at this point of the season.
    Offensive stats mean just as much now as they do any other time of the year as all the games are worth the same in April as they are in September.

    2013 RISP
    40-for-100 .400 for Cardinals
    24-for-106 .226 for Reds

    You don't think this means anything or has affected things so far in the standings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maker_84 View Post
    Cardinals are the team to beat in the central, their starting pitching is sooo good 1-5 that it can mask a weak bullpen and their hitting is pretty good too
    Yeah I'm sure they can keep up that MLB leading 1.99 starters ERA they have so far this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HometownHero View Post
    Yeah I'm sure they can keep up that MLB leading 1.99 starters ERA they have so far this year.
    Even if Cueto is out for the entire year, I would rather have the Reds starting pitchers for 2013 than the Cardinals. It's not even close.
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