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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRedLegger View Post
    Didn't Leake play SS on days he wasn't pitching back in the day?
    This is in his sophomore year at ASU:
    He also batted .340 with 2 homers and 11 RBI in 47 at bats while playing first base, second base, shortstop, left field, center field, and right field.
    I cannot find the quote but I distinctly remember during the College World Series they were speaking with Pat Taylor about Leake's athletic ability. I am paraphrasing here but Taylor said something along the lines that 'Leake would have been the best player on that ASU squad at any position he would have put him in'.
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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Let's see how Leake would react to curves and sliders then we will revisit this idea.
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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Quote Originally Posted by cumberlandreds View Post
    Let's see how Leake would react to curves and sliders then we will revisit this idea.
    Or he gets injured chasing a flyball or running out a groundball. Of course we all know there is always a great(er?) risk of injury when pitching, but the man is a pitcher. He is also in our starting staff (like that or not). Much easier to accept if he goes on the DL due to pitching than playing OF.

    I have heard Chapman is a heck of an athlete and even runs very fast. Does not mean you'd use him as a pinch-runner. His importance to this team lies elsewhere.

    Now I'd be supportive of Leake occasionally being used as a PH!
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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    How about DH when the team is @AL parks?

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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    .648 career OPS in 200 PA not including tonight.

    Don't let the smooth taste fool you.

    Reds current LF collective is sporting a .583 OPS

    I agree that Leake is not an everyday MLB caliber OF but neither are Heisey/Paul.

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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc D View Post
    Reds current LF collective is sporting a .583 OPS

    I agree that Leake is not an everyday MLB caliber OF but neither are Heisey/Paul.
    Xavier Paul had 14 plate appearances this year. He is hitting .286/.286/.500.

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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Quote Originally Posted by TOBTTReds View Post
    How about DH when the team is @AL parks?
    I can't think of a worse plan than having the one opportunity to get one of your bats off the bench for a full set of at-bats (like, Xavier Paul) and passing that up for Mike Leake.

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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Quote Originally Posted by MrRedLegger View Post
    Didn't Leake play SS on days he wasn't pitching back in the day?
    Funny, I was at the game last night and mentioned to my father in law that Leake would put together a better season offensively than Izturis if given the same at bats. I guess it could happen with the glove too.
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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    During Leake's first start of the year, I bet with my roommate a 6 pack that Mike Leake will have a better batting average at season's end than Mesoraco. After last night, I like my chances.
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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Quote Originally Posted by wolfboy View Post
    Funny, I was at the game last night and mentioned to my father in law that Leake would put together a better season offensively than Izturis if given the same at bats. I guess it could happen with the glove too.
    Last year, I would have taken Mike Leake as a PH over Wilson Valdez every day and twice on Sunday. Also Kris Negron, Willie Harris, and maybe Miguel Cairo.

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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Quote Originally Posted by Marc D View Post
    Reds current LF collective is sporting a .583 OPS

    I agree that Leake is not an everyday MLB caliber OF but neither are Heisey/Paul.
    I'm not sure I follow the slippery slope argument but it's more likely that those guys combine for a .700-ish OPS in addition to knowing how to play the position.

    Great? No.

    Better than what Leake would probably put up? Very likely.
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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    He's a better hitter at this point than Rick Ankiel was..

    ...or Rick Astley!

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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Mike Leake is a career .283/.315/.364 hitter with a 9:1 SO/BB ratio and a .423 BABIP. Batting 15 times a week that BABIP will not hold up. And when it regresses, you've got a hitter with a sub .500 OPS
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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Quote Originally Posted by mgbrown66 View Post
    He's a better hitter at this point than Rick Ankiel was..

    ...or Rick Astley!
    Yes. But we all know the things Rick is never gonna do!
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    Re: Try Leake in LF 2-3 nights a week

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Mike Leake is a career .283/.315/.364 hitter with a 9:1 SO/BB ratio and a .423 BABIP. Batting 15 times a week that BABIP will not hold up. And when it regresses, you've got a hitter with a sub .500 OPS
    I don't disagree with the point you're making, but sample size works both directions. He also has only 200 career plate appearances, so it's possible that the SO/BB ratio would change and his iso would increase with more time. The BABIP isn't the only thing that might be wildly subject to change with more chances.

    That said, Chris Heisey has a .737 OPS over nearly 1,000 plate appearances. I'd still bet on him being a better option than Leake anyhow.
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