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    Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/daily...st-start-ever/

    Fangraphs' blurb on the starting pitcher match-up tonight.


    Also included in the article are GIFs of Fernandez's change and curve for those, like me, who have never seen him before.

    NOTE: Almost forgot. It states in the article that this is Today's MLB Free Game of the Day. WOOOO!!!
    SUPERCEDING NOTE: I read the headlines incorrectly. Another game is the MLB GOTD. Sorry. My bad.
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    Re: Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

    Sorry to disappoint but the free game is the White Sox/Jays game.
    http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index.jsp?c_id=mlb

    I'm looking forward to seeing Fernandez. Last night Thom mentioned that Gary Matthews had told Dusty that Fernandez had the best stuff he's seen since Dwight Gooden. We'll see.
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    Re: Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

    Actually White Sox/Blue Jays is the Free Game of the Day, sadly.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    I'm looking so forward to this game tonight, I fear a disappointment.
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    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    I'm looking so forward to this game tonight, I fear a disappointment.
    Just manage expectations VM.

    No matter how good he is a debut meltown is always a possiblity in a first ML start. Gripping the ball a bit too tight because of nerves or adrenalin is all it takes for stud to become a dud for the night.

    So I'm prepared for a absolute meltdown (but believe that a gem is possible )

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    Re: Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

    Have Cingrani and Mesoraco worked together much in the past?
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    Re: Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

    Pulled the trigger on tickets for tonight from StubHub -- looking forward to the matchup.
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    Re: Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

    Quote Originally Posted by New York Red View Post
    Have Cingrani and Mesoraco worked together much in the past?
    Unless it was in spring training, no. Last year they played in the same game on September 9th, but Mesoraco replaced Cingrani in a double switch.

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    Re: Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Unless it was in spring training, no. Last year they played in the same game on September 9th, but Mesoraco replaced Cingrani in a double switch.
    Thanks, Doug.
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    Re: Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

    The underdog won the matchup.
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    Re: Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

    Anyone got an idea about what % of fastballs Cingrani threw tonight? Just curious since that's what most commentators believe to be his Achilles heel...
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    Re: Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

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    Anyone got an idea about what % of fastballs Cingrani threw tonight? Just curious since that's what most commentators believe to be his Achilles heel...
    I tried to count these in my head off of Gameday.

    First inning he threw 21 pitches. 20 fastballs, 1 change-up.

    But gradually he started working in more off-speed stuff. By the end of the night it was 102 pitches. 83 fastballs, 8 change-ups, 11 sliders.

    I took my shoes off so that is pretty close.
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    Re: Cingrani-Fernandez match-up

    Kind of interesting, on the postgame show, Dusty said he thought Cingrani was overthrowing a bit, because some of his pitches were higher than he would normally expect.

    We got to temper our enthusiasm a bit, since this was the Marlins, but what a great night for Cingrani. 'm anxious to see his next start.

    It did seem the Marlins had trouble with his fastball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    I tried to count these in my head off of Gameday.

    First inning he threw 21 pitches. 20 fastballs, 1 change-up.

    But gradually he started working in more off-speed stuff. By the end of the night it was 102 pitches. 83 fastballs, 8 change-ups, 11 sliders.

    I took my shoes off so that is pretty close.
    Great, thanks! In any case, he is still very FB reliant.
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