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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I'd take issue with this. Hanigan's numbers have steadily declined in recent seasons. He had a .703 OPS last year.

    When you look at his splits, he really doesn't hit righty pitching much at all. He had a .685 OPS in 2011, .661 in 2012, against righty pitching.

    I think the argument that defense is the main job of a catcher (with offense not being that important) doesn't hold up.

    The best players at every position both hit and field their position. I don't think catcher is any different.

    Sure, a catcher has to play good defense but if he can't hit right handed pitching it seriously hurts his value.
    Well, I haven't looked at his splits. But I don't see steady decline. I see his OBP being a career high of .405 in 2010 then the next 2 season right at his career norms. His dingers went down last season, but he had twice as many doubles. And each year he's still having more BB's than K's. He'll be fine. He's in a slump, much like Joey is.

    And don't get me wrong, I'm not down on Mes either. His time may very well be now...but the ragging on Hanny is excessive (that's all my point was).
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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    Reds don't pay Votto big $$$ to walk and get on base.....

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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    Well, that sucked.

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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    Reds lose. Brutal loss. The Marlins are the worst team in baseball, by far.
    I miss Adam Dunn.

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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Maker_84 View Post
    time to move him down in the order, he's just hurting the team. He's never been an elite talent and when his mind isn't right he can be pretty bad
    Okay, I've been letting your comments slide...but come on. Are you even a Reds fan? Seriously? That's beyond absurd IMO.
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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    ugly...

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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    Aww, and that's the game. Well, I guess we can't take them all. It was a good run, though.

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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    If it were anyone else I'd chalk it up to a slump, but with Votto it is really really weird. Not saying we should worry about him, but at what point do we wonder? I've never seen him look this bad.

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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    Never thought I'd see the day that Bruce looks way better than Votto at the plate.

    I'm sure Votto will bounce back, but I can't imagine what is going on there.
    I see great things in baseball. It's our game.

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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Maker_84 View Post
    time to move him down in the order, he's just hurting the team. He's never been an elite talent and when his mind isn't right he can be pretty bad
    Yeah, because the Juan Pierres of the world always win MVP.


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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    offense = fail

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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Reds lose. Brutal loss. The Marlins are the worst team in baseball, by far.
    It's. One. Game.

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    A quarter of a billion dollars. He needs to start driving the ball.

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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by LaFlamaBlanca View Post
    Yeah, because the Juan Pierres of the world always win MVP.

    where did i ever mention juan pierre?

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    Re: 4/19 Miami vs the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Maker_84 View Post
    time to move him down in the order, he's just hurting the team. He's never been an elite talent and when his mind isn't right he can be pretty bad
    Good grief I sure hope you aren't serious.
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