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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Brutus View Post
    You're really not making much sense. You were just arguing that he wasn't elite in tools, but now you're saying the sum of the tools don't matter as much as the big picture. So clearly he's an elite talent if he possesses elite talent or else he wouldn't be an elite player.
    LOL. Apparently I'm not.

    Let's try again. I think he has 1 elite tool (hit) and some above average tools (power, defense) a some average tools (speed & arm).

    He's not an overall elite talent physically. Drew stubbs is. Drew has been unable to capitalize on those tools to make the most of his physical talents. Joey has been able to not only capitalize on his physical talents, he's been able to surpass even the most optimistic projections for him. Like Pete Rose, he's turned himself into a player who not only maximizes his capabilities, he goes beyond what he should be able to do you would think. Pete did it with work ethic and hustle, Votto did it with work ethic and out thinking the opposition.

    Both guys were/are elite players without possessing elite physical tools in abundance.

    Now lets drop this and walk this baby off!!!!!
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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    Bp is going to get it done here

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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    Normally optimistic about this situation.

    Not today.
    "Man, the pitch looks fast, even in slow motion." Thom Brennaman on Chapman's fastball.

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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    Bobblehead with the game winner! :o)
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    Bruce/Votto neck and neck MVP race (neither takes it)
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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    BP wins it on BP bobblehead day!

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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    "I talked to an advance scout that told me if Joey Votto and Albert Pujols were on the same team he'd advise his team to do the unthinkable...pitch around Votto to get to Pujols." - Buster Olney, ESPN

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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Reds will end it this inning.
    Told you guys!

    We're good again!
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    "And This One Belongs To The Reds."

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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    Well, it took a looong time, but the Reds did it!

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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    Now wasn't that perfect. BP bobble head day and the winning SF
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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    Phillips is the Reds best hitter with getting the run in from third with less than 2 outs (one of the best in the majors) and he proves it again today.

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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    That's what happens when you get baserunners!

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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    Good win, but when your 1 and 3 hole hitters get on base 11 times, you need to score more than 3 runs.
    I may not be fast, but I sure am slow.

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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    phillips is just clutch, wish more players on the team were like him

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    Re: 4/20 Miami vs the Reds

    Quote Originally Posted by New York Red View Post
    Choo on for the 6th time today. It sure is nice having a leadoff hitter.
    Can you imagine another year with Stubbs at lead-off?

    How did we ever survive the last two?


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