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    Austin Kearns and what should've been

    Why didn't Kearns have a better career? The guy was a very, very good minor league player. He had a fantastic arm in right, a good eye, decent power. His first year with the Reds he lit the league on fire. Was it just a matter of pitchers making adjustments, or is there something more to it? Was he never the same after the collision with Ray King? Frankly, I've always thought that collision ruined his career. But if that collision never happens, does his career follow the same arc? I'd be interested to hear some opinions on this, especially those more familiar with his minor league numbers and his scouting report. I was fairly young when Kearns was brought up, but I do recall speculation that he would be a star. SHOULD he have been a star?

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    Baseball is a very very very hard game that looks very easy

    Austin has had a career that millions wish they had had, why it hasn't been better is probably as varied as why it's been this good

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    I was surprised when I saw the other day he hit 71 home run with the Reds. He's had a solid career and while injuries likely robbed him of some of what he might have been, the paychecks and longevity of career have more than made up for that disappointment.

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    Having Ray King sit on your shoulder certainly can't help things.

    I don't know if he would have been the star he was predicted to be, but I think he would have had a better career had the injury never happened. He was absolutely a different hitter and never the same after that.
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    Well, some won't like what I have to say, because it's rumor.

    I heard back when Kearns and Dunn came up they were big buddies. And that Kearns was lazy, uncoachable, and didn't work on his game. Also heard that is why he got traded with Lopez to the Nats. Partially because the Reds felt his work ethic was bad, and that he was rubbing off negatively on Dunn.

    "Ears" as he was known then to some Reds fans was one of my favorite players briefly. He had one season when he always seem to come up with the big hit.

    There are the Joey Votto's and there are the Austin Kearns's. Kearns had tons of talent. I can only believe that what I heard was true considering how mediocre his career turned out.
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    Re: Austin Kearns and what should've been

    With Kearns, I think it was largely injuries: See THIS LINK.

    I keep hearing this BS about Kearns and Dunn being "lazy", and I'm sick of it. There may be truth to it or not, but none of that seems to come from any of the other organizations that these guys played for. It's all just bare rumor. I'd like to see actual coaches or staff that can back up that they wouldn't listen or work as hard as they should have. I haven't seen the direct evidence, and unless I do, I'm not buying.

    Lot's of top prospects just don't pan out. Kearns had injuries, and Dunn became a 'three true outcomes' player, with 400+ HRs. That is what I see. Our expectations, fed by Jim Bowden's hyping of his draft picks, were just too high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    With Kearns, I think it was largely injuries: See THIS LINK.

    I keep hearing this BS about Kearns and Dunn being "lazy", and I'm sick of it. There may be truth to it or not, but none of that seems to come from any of the other organizations that these guys played for. It's all just bare rumor. I'd like to see actual coaches or staff that can back up that they wouldn't listen or work as hard as they should have. I haven't seen the direct evidence, and unless I do, I'm not buying.

    Lot's of top prospects just don't pan out. Kearns had injuries, and Dunn became a 'three true outcomes' player, with 400+ HRs. That is what I see. Our expectations, fed by Jim Bowden's hyping of his draft picks, were just too high.
    I'll speculate that stuff is floated by our old minor league development staff, who were garbage as you might remember, and likely couldn't figure out how to get Dunn and Kearns to develop to their full potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    With Kearns, I think it was largely injuries: See THIS LINK.

    I keep hearing this BS about Kearns and Dunn being "lazy", and I'm sick of it. There may be truth to it or not, but none of that seems to come from any of the other organizations that these guys played for. It's all just bare rumor. I'd like to see actual coaches or staff that can back up that they wouldn't listen or work as hard as they should have. I haven't seen the direct evidence, and unless I do, I'm not buying.

    Lot's of top prospects just don't pan out. Kearns had injuries, and Dunn became a 'three true outcomes' player, with 400+ HRs. That is what I see. Our expectations, fed by Jim Bowden's hyping of his draft picks, were just too high.
    I agree. People just believe what they want to believe.

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    Re: Austin Kearns and what should've been

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    With Kearns, I think it was largely injuries: See THIS LINK.

    I keep hearing this BS about Kearns and Dunn being "lazy", and I'm sick of it. There may be truth to it or not, but none of that seems to come from any of the other organizations that these guys played for. It's all just bare rumor. I'd like to see actual coaches or staff that can back up that they wouldn't listen or work as hard as they should have. I haven't seen the direct evidence, and unless I do, I'm not buying.
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    Re: Austin Kearns and what should've been

    Quote Originally Posted by mbgrayson View Post
    With Kearns, I think it was largely injuries: See THIS LINK.

    I keep hearing this BS about Kearns and Dunn being "lazy", and I'm sick of it. There may be truth to it or not, but none of that seems to come from any of the other organizations that these guys played for. It's all just bare rumor. I'd like to see actual coaches or staff that can back up that they wouldn't listen or work as hard as they should have. I haven't seen the direct evidence, and unless I do, I'm not buying.

    Lot's of top prospects just don't pan out. Kearns had injuries, and Dunn became a 'three true outcomes' player, with 400+ HRs. That is what I see. Our expectations, fed by Jim Bowden's hyping of his draft picks, were just too high.
    It has been out there. Plenty of anecdotal evidence, especially for Dunn. Denying it at this point is like denying Bonds ever used steroids because he never failed a drug test and shouting "show me the proof." If you want to be willfully ignorant of their lack of work ethic, that's fine. But it's more than bare rumor.

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    Re: Austin Kearns and what should've been

    Considering where this team has been, and where they are now, it's a bit depressing seeing two dedicated "lazy threads" for Adam Dunn & Austin Kearns at the top of ORG.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Number_Fourteen View Post
    Considering where this team has been, and where they are now, it's a bit depressing seeing two dedicated "lazy threads" for Adam Dunn & Austin Kearns at the top of ORG.

    I was going to start a D'Angelo Jiminez thread next.
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    I don't think either Dunn or Kearns is a disappointment in reality. They are disappointments in relation to what we hoped they'd be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    I don't think either Dunn or Kearns is a disappointment in reality. They are disappointments in relation to what we hoped they'd be.
    I think Kearns definitely was. He basically ended up as a journeyman.
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    being a journey man is nothing to look down upon. many never make it that far. definitely a rewarding career


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