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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by holster10 View Post
    he doesn't fit the loogy profile because he walks too many.....
    ...and he has problems getting LHB out.
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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Honestly, I wasn't impressed with Parra over his extended career with Milwaukee. I wasn't impressed with him in spring training. And I haven't been impressed with him at all so far this year.

    I don't know why the reds would be worried about losing him unless it's because management doesn't want to look foolish. But, I really can't believe they would worry about that.

    I mean this in the best possible way, with all due respect to Parra, he just isn't very good.

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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by holster10 View Post
    he doesn't fit the loogy profile because he walks too many.....
    check out his splits last year. i know it's only one season, but he only has one full season as a reliever. anyway, he had a 10.3 k/9, 3.7 bb/9, and a FIP of 2.82 against lefties. that sounds like a loogy to me. sure the walks aren't ideal, but the k/bb ratio of 2.75 is pretty solid
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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    I put this in another thread but realized it would fit better here. I am curious about last night- Thursday- vs the Nats. If the plan is to activate Marshall on Friday and sent out Parra, why use Hoover and Ondrusek in a 5 run game in which the bats are silent? Why not just run out Parra and use up his arm over two innings and rest everyone else?

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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    I put this in another thread but realized it would fit better here. I am curious about last night- Thursday- vs the Nats. If the plan is to activate Marshall on Friday and sent out Parra, why use Hoover and Ondrusek in a 5 run game in which the bats are silent? Why not just run out Parra and use up his arm over two innings and rest everyone else?
    Didn't Parra pitch two innings the other night? Maybe Reds thought it was too soon to bring him back. Presumably they don't want to risk the guy's arm just because he's headed to AAA soon.

    Also Reds might want to keep giving Hoover and Ondrusek regular work if they are going to remain with the club. To keep them as sharp as possible.

    I don't think this was any big deal.

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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Simplly throwing with one's left hand does not a LOOGY make:

    Parra vR: .293/.373/.446
    Parra vL: .267/.350/.414

    He's a very bad pitcher vR. He's merely poor vL. Sure, he's better vL than vR. But I'm 6'2" and throw better with my right hand than my left -- it doesn't mean I should be a major league starter.

    Meanwhile:

    Arredondo vR: .252/.346/.414
    Arredondo vL: .187/.290/.291

    If you want a high strikeout, high walk LOOGY, Arredondo is your guy. Forget what arm he throws with, he dominates lefties. Parra doesn't.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    I have nothing against Parra personally, but he seems like someone who would have been on our staff 10 years ago.
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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigredmechanism View Post
    I have nothing against Parra personally, but he seems like someone who would have been on our staff 10 years ago.
    The same could be said for Ondrusek.

    I'm not sure I understand the fascination this organization has with him.

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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    The same could be said for Ondrusek.

    I'm not sure I understand the fascination this organization has with him.
    I don't have a lot of confidence in Ondrusek, either, but I do think he's a bit better than Parra. I try not to be overly critical of players, but Parra's performances so far have been downright horrifying. This is not the kind of pitcher you win a WS with on your staff.
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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigredmechanism View Post
    I don't have a lot of confidence in Ondrusek, either, but I do think he's a bit better than Parra. I try not to be overly critical of players, but Parra's performances so far have been downright horrifying. This is not the kind of pitcher you win a WS with on your staff.
    Parra has been horrible. There is no question he should be the first to go, but Ondrusek has never been anything more than replacement-level or worse for his entire short career. I never really could see what was so special about him, but yet he keeps getting opportunities. Heck, for some reason they even decided to give him a raise over the next two years. It's not my money, but I still have to wonder what they see in him.

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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    Simplly throwing with one's left hand does not a LOOGY make:

    Parra vR: .293/.373/.446
    Parra vL: .267/.350/.414

    He's a very bad pitcher vR. He's merely poor vL. Sure, he's better vL than vR. But I'm 6'2" and throw better with my right hand than my left -- it doesn't mean I should be a major league starter.

    Meanwhile:

    Arredondo vR: .252/.346/.414
    Arredondo vL: .187/.290/.291

    If you want a high strikeout, high walk LOOGY, Arredondo is your guy. Forget what arm he throws with, he dominates lefties. Parra doesn't.
    Two things to even out this thought: one, being a LOOGY goes both ways as you have to take into acct how the hitter does vs a lefty. Two, are those Parra numbers career or as a reliever? Relief numbers would be the ones to look at.

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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    I put this in another thread but realized it would fit better here. I am curious about last night- Thursday- vs the Nats. If the plan is to activate Marshall on Friday and sent out Parra, why use Hoover and Ondrusek in a 5 run game in which the bats are silent? Why not just run out Parra and use up his arm over two innings and rest everyone else?
    Now we have the answer. Parra was hurt and needed to be disabled.
    Last edited by klw; 04-26-2013 at 06:54 PM.

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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    Parra has been horrible. There is no question he should be the first to go, but Ondrusek has never been anything more than replacement-level or worse for his entire short career. I never really could see what was so special about him, but yet he keeps getting opportunities. Heck, for some reason they even decided to give him a raise over the next two years. It's not my money, but I still have to wonder what they see in him.
    For being paid very little money, I don't see why he offends so many people.

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    Re: When Marshall Returns Who Goes?

    Quote Originally Posted by edabbs44 View Post
    For being paid very little money, I don't see why he offends so many people.
    Not that it matters, but I don't know why some people think the money is "very little". I guess it's all relative. Regardless, I'm more offended by sub-quality/sub-replacement level pitching that seems to have unlimited mulligans. It's all so perplexing to me.

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