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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Arredondo has 9 walks in 10 innning in AAA this season so far. He wouldn't have been much better.
    Yeah, control is the issue with Jose. However, his WHIP and ERA are not that bad for a last guy out of the bullpen. Parra's WHIP is just about twice that of the next highest WHIP on the Reds roster. Yeah, the season is early, but Parra has had one decent year in the show, and that was 4-5 years ago.

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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    I haven't seen that much of Parra.
    The 10th inning was certainly a disaster.
    However, he looked good in the 9th.
    Not saying that one good inning warrants a roster spot, but I can see why the Reds invested in him as a project.

    It would be nice if they could somehow sneak him to AAA though and keep Logan instead when Marshall comes off the DL. I don't know if this is possible or not.
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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    Not saying that one good inning warrants a roster spot, but I can see why the Reds invested in him as a project.
    But why keep a "project" instead of Arredondo, who is a known quantity?
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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    Definitely need to replace him with Arredondo.

    I was for keeping Parra out of ST based on what I read about his stuff, and the chance that he could find the control that he had in the minors.

    But tonight he should have called Miller off and stuck with the split-finger and curve.

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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    But why keep a "project" instead of Arredondo, who is a known quantity?
    I guess it depends on whether they can send Parra to AAA or not.
    If they can option him, he can still stay in Cincy and work with Price.

    Arrendondo.. they gave him a 2 year trial, and he wasn't that good.

    Parra has the potential to be better than Arrendondo. Hard to say if he will ever realize that potential though. In fairness to Parra though, his audition has only been 5 innings so far.

    If the Reds did decide to demote or cut Parra, I think I'd rather have Logan on the roster than Arrendondo.
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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    I LOVED Para when he was pitching AGAINST us.

    No variation in his fastball or breaking pitches. At first they seem like decent pitches but it's deceptive because one FB is exactly like the last FB he threw and one BB is exactly like the last BB he thew. It's a great formula for getting hit fairly hard at the ML level.

    I'll be glad when we see his back as he exits the team.

    Bring back Arredondo.

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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    Arredondo is too wild for me, but I prefer him to Parra right now. He gets guys out and handles lefties well.

    Look what Marmol's done, besides the Votto hit he's mowing down our sluggers pretty well, despite the walks.

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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    Parra. Bray and Herrera before him. This just drives home the fact that there is a dearth of LH pitching in baseball. If you want an almost surefire multi-million-dollar retirement plan, force your sons to throw left-handed.

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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    So do you think Para's gone when Marshall comes back?
    That Joey Votto is some kind of Man Candy!

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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    Quote Originally Posted by jhiller21 View Post
    Arredondo is too wild for me, but I prefer him to Parra right now. He gets guys out and handles lefties well.

    Look what Marmol's done, besides the Votto hit he's mowing down our sluggers pretty well, despite the walks.
    Carlos Marmol is really bad. Probably not the best example to use.
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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    I was in the minority that thought Parra's good arm would thrive as a reliever. He still might, but with Marshall coming back, he's got to go. I'm not real enamored with Ondrusek or Simon either, but Parra is the one that needs to go first.

    As for Arredondo, there are lots of crummy pitchers in the soft underbelly of major league bullpens, but nobody wanted him when he was outrighted. That speaks volumes IMO. Even the Astros passed on him. Think about that for a minute.
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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    Parra's FB seems to be squared up a lot.

    I wonder if there isn't much movement on it (and he's a lefty!) or if it's a control issue?

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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Parra has now pitched Just a few innings. He's allowed 23 hits and 11 earned runs. No place for him in a tie game. So it goes. Time for him to leave.
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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    Not that I think Parra is anything to defend, but do we expect his .520 babip to continue?

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    Re: Why is Parra on this team instead of Arredondo?

    Five reasons Parra should not be on this team:
    1. 8 hits and 5 earned runs given up in last 2.3 innings pitched. 16 hits in less than 7 innings overall. The guy is getting pounded.
    2. Does not fit the loogy role because he walks too many and has control issues.
    3. Limited versatility. Only reliable enough to pitch in mop-up for blow outs...which don't happen all that often.
    4. Pitches high in the zone and fastball is thrown straight as an arrow. Here it is boys....
    5. Parra has absolutely no consistent history of MLB success. The fact that the Brewers let him go and they had a terrible bullpen the last few years should tell you something.

    Also, isn't he supposed to be a long man? Sure, he had one good inning last night but isn't the long man supposed to get desirable results for more than one inning?

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