I saw the headline and thought for sure the article was about Cingrani. Like usual I was wrong.
Detwiler threw 107 pitches in that April 17 outing, 100 of them fastballs. He threw only seven offspeed pitches, all curveballs. Detwiler was a fastball-heavy pitcher last year, throwing about 80 percent fastballs in 2012, according to the Pitch F/x data at BrooksBaseball.net. But he's taken it to a new level in his first four starts this season, throwing 379 fastballs in 420 pitches -- more than 90 percent.But that's not why Maddon smiled when he heard about Detwiler's fastball frenzy in Miami. It's because the Rays preach the importance of a fastball-first repertoire and fastball command as much as any organization in the Majors. It's how they've developed an incredible number of young pitchers, from the four homegrown starters in their current rotation -- David Price, Jeremy Hellickson, Matt Moore and Alex Cobb -- to the ones they've traded away, like Royals ace James Shields.
"Unless you can throw your fastball where you want it and when you want it, the other pitches almost become moot," Maddon said. "And if you choose to throw those other pitches all the time, you're probably going to get hurt."
Last edited by klw; 04-26-2013 at 02:32 PM.
"I donít know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody".
But I've been assured that Cingrani will inevitabely fail because of his fastball reliance...
Can't describe how much I'm looking forward to being there for his matchup with Detwiler Sunday. When I was in Lousiville early this month and saw Hamilton have a great night on NCAA Basketball Championship Monday, my only regret was missing Cingrani, who pitched the next night after we'd left.
Re: Sunday. My kingdom for a shutout with maybe 85% fastballs. If the Reds can continue all the other teams' hit parade against hapless Haren tomorrow, Sunday sets up as the season series deciding game. Big time.
Reds & Nats, 2013 LCS. Take2 (9/13) Reds but no Nats
I like what I have seen from the kid so far, but lets be honest - he's not very well known by a majority of the hitters he's facing. I'm not as "up" on this kid as some of you are, but it appears, from my simple observations though, and what I've seen so far, is that he relies a little too much on his fast ball. He needs that third pitch because that can (and will) catch up to you.
Last edited by GAC; 04-27-2013 at 05:25 AM.
"panic" only comes from having real expectations
Just food for thought: Keith Law was on ESPN 1530 this week with Lance McAlister and said that he still isn't sure that Cingrani is a for sure starter. That he relies so much on deception with his fastball that he wonders if the pitch will remain good enough after he gets around the league a few times and then has to lean more on secondary stuff that he doesn't seem to trust as much.
"All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH
Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS
I would be a bit nervous if I was Mike Leake...
Red Raindog (04-28-2013)
Mike Leake could never do this on his best day. He's always gonna depend on grounders.
So when does this kid move to middle relief where he belongs?
He is our second best pitcher. How can you send him back down?
I like Leake, but he's just not this good right NOW.