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    Re: Tony Cingrani Thread

    I wonder if Mike Leake could be the Scott Sullivan type we've wanted.

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    Re: Cingrani for Cy Young/Rookie of the Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    Holy small sample size Batman!!!!
    Looking for a small sample size of Leake's like this and I'll be darned tootin', I can't find one.

    And we kinda have a teack record with Cingrani.
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    Re: Tony Cingrani Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Mike Leake can refuse assignment at this point in his career, and he would, so sending him down is not an option that the Reds are going to take because someone would pick him up rather quickly and the Reds would lose him.
    Wouldn't we get a high draft pick if that happens? I'm ok with that...j/K....kinda.

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    Re: Cingrani for Cy Young/Rookie of the Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    I don't want Cingrani to stay up with the Reds any longer than he has to. There's a real danger of him reaching Super Two status if he stays with the Reds for the whole season.
    The sample size is ridiculously small. I also want to watch his pitch counts.
    That said, no way in the world do I want to see Cingrani sent down just to keep him from reaching Super Two status. If he keeps pitching like this the Reds have a much better chance of reaching 2013 World Championship status.
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    Re: Cingrani for Cy Young/Rookie of the Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    I don't want Cingrani to stay up with the Reds any longer than he has to. There's a real danger of him reaching Super Two status if he stays with the Reds for the whole season.
    Seriously?

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    Re: Cingrani for Cy Young/Rookie of the Year?

    Cingrani isn't going down to AAA unless he slumps.

    When Cueto returns, Reds will have to decide whether Leake or Cingrani goes to the pen. I'm guessing Leake. Some chance Leake goes to AAA, but I doubt it.

    Since Arroyo's contract ends this year, both Leake and Cingrani have a future with the Reds, who likely will put both in the 2014 rotation.

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    Re: Cingrani for Cy Young/Rookie of the Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    I don't want Cingrani to stay up with the Reds any longer than he has to. There's a real danger of him reaching Super Two status if he stays with the Reds for the whole season.
    Sarcasm?

    Or are fans now to be conditioned by the inner workings of the MLB player labor contract and its myriad of rules.

    I hope it's the former and not the later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superdude View Post
    Seriously?
    Yeah.....send him to Dayton.

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    Re: Tony Cingrani Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Mike Leake can refuse assignment at this point in his career, and he would, so sending him down is not an option that the Reds are going to take because someone would pick him up rather quickly and the Reds would lose him.
    I didn't realize that he could refuse a trip to Louisville. He had better get used to the bullpen then.
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    Re: Cingrani for Cy Young/Rookie of the Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    A lot of middling pitchers have started out with excellent starts too.

    Look, Cingrani has pitched excellent and likely has a good future.

    But CYA?
    Just curiously, and not because I'm doubting you, but only because I'm too lazy to do the research myself, but what are some examples of this? In my very selective and poor memory, I can't remember a rookie dominating like Cingrani has in his first three starts, that didn't stick around and have success at the MLB level. But that's mostly because I can't remember too many being this dominant.
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    Re: Tony Cingrani Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by DocRed View Post
    Wouldn't we get a high draft pick if that happens? I'm ok with that...j/K....kinda.
    No, we would get absolutely nothing.

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    Re: Cingrani for Cy Young/Rookie of the Year?

    Cy Young went 9-7 in his rookie year. I know, wins aren't a good metric.

    Baseball has had quite a few tales of David Clyde and Mark Fidrych.

    I remember Cueto's debut was spectacular. Then he had to develop.

    Leake skipped the minors then regressed.

    Homer Bailey was rushed, and it showed.

    But why not let Cingranati show what he can do, for as long as he can?

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    Re: Cingrani for Cy Young/Rookie of the Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Just curiously, and not because I'm doubting you, but only because I'm too lazy to do the research myself, but what are some examples of this? In my very selective and poor memory, I can't remember a rookie dominating like Cingrani has in his first three starts, that didn't stick around and have success at the MLB level. But that's mostly because I can't remember too many being this dominant.
    Dontrelle Willis? A couple of really good years. A couple of mediocre years. Overall subpar career? I feel like the national media painted him as dominant during the beginning of his career but it's been too long, can't really remember if they really did or I am just imagining things.

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    Re: Cingrani for Cy Young/Rookie of the Year?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    When Cueto returns, Reds will have to decide whether Leake or Cingrani goes to the pen. I'm guessing Leake. Some chance Leake goes to AAA, but I doubt it.
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    I'm guessing Leake goes to the DL and does a rehab stint in AAA. do we have an ETA on Cueto?

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    Re: Tony Cingrani Thread

    Today Cingrani pitched with an intensity I've rarely seen in a pitcher.

    As if he knows that this is his shot now, and that he has no intention of letting it slip away. Kudos to Buckley and the scouting department.

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