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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    As usual....I'm wrong and the ump is right. How they get that so often astounds me. Heck of a play by Garcia to recover that quickly
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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Really can't be upset by that home run by Holliday. Arroyo doesn't have the stuff to shut out the Cards except on a rare night.

    If the Reds want to win, obviously they need runs, and I'd also use the bullpen. I never like Arroyo going too deep in the game. They ultimately tend to get to him.
    I normally agree with this....but when his pitch count is this low it's not like his normal games.
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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    As usual....I'm wrong and the ump is right. How they get that so often astounds me. Heck of a play by Garcia to recover that quickly
    Maybe it's because the ump is standing six inches from the base.

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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Mesoraco grounds out to 2nd.

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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I don't accept this.

    Reds have had opportunities tonight and certain guys consistently fail in these spots.

    I don't expect 7 runs against the Cards with a pitcher like Garcia. But I think I'm entitled to three or four.
    Garcia's ERA says you are not entitled to that many.

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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Maybe it's because the ump is standing six inches from the base.
    Don't confuse the situation with facts. Sheesh!
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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    As usual....I'm wrong and the ump is right. How they get that so often astounds me. Heck of a play by Garcia to recover that quickly
    Using ones ears when you are feet away from the play really helps.

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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Garcia's ERA says you are not entitled to that many.
    As a Reds fan, we're automatically entitled to see Garcia's ERA balloon to the stratosphere. Right? :O) Personally, I like that plan.
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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Garcia's ERA says you are not entitled to that many.
    Reds are supposed to be better than average. Read the predictions thread, Reds are supposed to win over 90 games.

    I think three or four runs against Jaime Garcia is a fair request.

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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I don't accept this.

    Reds have had opportunities tonight and certain guys consistently fail in these spots.

    I don't expect 7 runs against the Cards with a pitcher like Garcia. But I think I'm entitled to three or four.
    You forget though that Garcia is a BOSS at home. These two games are a prime example of how good both starting pitching staffs are and you shouldn't expect a ton of runs.
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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    Using ones ears when you are feet away from the play really helps.
    Yeah, I know. But still I'm constantly amazed at how often they get calls right that just stun me.

    And then there's the Phillips tag play that nobody could've possibly have gotten...except the camera man.
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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Ump behind the plate sucks. First pitch to Robinson was really low and he calls it a strike.

    Every time we play in St. Louis I feel like the umps are homers. Dude missed the call on BP at second. BP was clearly safe.

    Arroyo is actually pitching a gem. One bad pitch.

    Garcia may be a good pitcher. But I don't see it. He benefits from the Reds swinging at alot of pitches out of the strike zone.
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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Reds are supposed to be better than average. Read the predictions thread, Reds are supposed to win over 90 games.

    I think three or four runs against Jaime Garcia is a fair request.
    It's reasonable to hope for it. But to expect it is asking too much. I certainly don't think the Cards are entitled to 3 or 4 vs. Latos.

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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Ump behind the plate sucks. First pitch to Robinson was really low and he calls it a strike.

    Every time we play in St. Louis I feel like the umps are homers. Dude missed the call on BP at second. BP was clearly safe.

    Arroyo is actually pitching a gem. One bad pitch.

    Garcia may be a good pitcher. But I don't see it. He benefits from the Reds swinging at alot of pitches out of the strike zone.
    Garcia has some of the nastiest off speed stuff in the league and has been one of the top left handed pitchers in baseball when he's healthy. There's a reason for it. Now if they could fix his road woes, that would be great.
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    Re: 4.30.13 Reds @ Baseball Cardinals of St. Louis

    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    Ump behind the plate sucks. First pitch to Robinson was really low and he calls it a strike.

    Every time we play in St. Louis I feel like the umps are homers. Dude missed the call on BP at second. BP was clearly safe.

    Arroyo is actually pitching a gem. One bad pitch.

    Garcia may be a good pitcher. But I don't see it. He benefits from the Reds swinging at alot of pitches out of the strike zone.
    Disagree. He was safe...but far from "clearly". EVERY ump misses that call.
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