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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    I wonder what it would take to pry DeJesus away from Chicago? He would be much better than the current options and when Ludwick comes back would create a heck of a LF platoon and a good bench.

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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I wonder what it would take to pry DeJesus away from Chicago? He would be much better than the current options and when Ludwick comes back would create a heck of a LF platoon and a good bench.
    You can get a DeJesus, maybe, at the deadline when the Cubs are getting ready for 2014.

    Right now, it would take real prospects in exchange.

    I think for now you live with Xavier Paul and his .375 OBP in limited at bats. His defense isn't very good, but he gets on base against RHP.

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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    Agreed. I'm not into giving up real prospects for what amount to a minor fix. I think it's best to stand pat and see how Ludwick progresses.

    Hopefully Bruce figures it out soon and Heisey/Paul do enough to get by. DeJesus or Venable at the deadline would be a nice complement for the stretch run and as next year's 3/4th outfielder. Makes a lot of sense.

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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksfan2 View Post
    I wonder what it would take to pry DeJesus away from Chicago? He would be much better than the current options and when Ludwick comes back would create a heck of a LF platoon and a good bench.
    I thought we had an agreement that if the Reds swept in Chicago, the Cubs had to give up DeJesus for free. I guess not.

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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    I think Walt has been looking at possible deals since Ludwick went down. The question is, when will the right deal open up. I hope it happens soon.

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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    Is Grady Sizemore on a roster? Would he be worth a flyer?
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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    I think you've got to go big or don't go at all. Stanton, Headley, etc.
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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I think you've got to go big or don't go at all. Stanton, Headley, etc.
    No on Headley for me. Not a good enough bat IMO to warrant moving Frazier to LF. Yes on Stanton. (statistically that is. I've not actually seen either player often enough to have an observational opinion).

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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan View Post
    I think you've got to go big or don't go at all. Stanton, Headley, etc.
    Not sure I really understand the go big stance. The Reds have built a team that is a world series contender. Going big may upgrade LF, but it would likely create multiple holes on the depth chart in the rotation and at other spots.

    There are plenty of role player types who have already been discussed in this thread (Denorfia, Dejesus, Venable, one of the A's or D-Backs guys, etc,) who could probably be had later in the year without gutting anything. A couple of interesting prospects and I'd think they could get an upgrade. They just aren't going to get anyone before mid-June, but when they can, I'm not in favor of dealing off anyone important to make it happen. The Reds need to add to what they have, not swap one problem for another.

    For now, I think Donald Lutz might be a guy who should get a long look. I don't think he's ready, but he seems to be heating up. Ride him for a while.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Not sure I really understand the go big stance. The Reds have built a team that is a world series contender. Going big may upgrade LF, but it would likely create multiple holes on the depth chart in the rotation and at other spots.

    There are plenty of role player types who have already been discussed in this thread (Denorfia, Dejesus, Venable, one of the A's or D-Backs guys, etc,) who could probably be had later in the year without gutting anything. A couple of interesting prospects and I'd think they could get an upgrade. They just aren't going to get anyone before mid-June, but when they can, I'm not in favor of dealing off anyone important to make it happen. The Reds need to add to what they have, not swap one problem for another.

    For now, I think Donald Lutz might be a guy who should get a long look. I don't think he's ready, but he seems to be heating up. Ride him for a while.
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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    Agree. What to do with left field right now is get Donald Lutz more playing time and see how it plays out.

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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    Lutz and Paul are both playing well, though I worry that neither can hit lefties at a decent clip.
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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Lutz and Paul are both playing well, though I worry that neither can hit lefties at a decent clip.
    True and Choo struggles against LHP as well. Hesiey should be his caddy when he comes back and I really wish they'd give Mesoraco an OF glove and let he and Lutz platoon in LF. Letting him platoon in LF while catching 40% of the time get's his bat in there.

    If the League catches up to Lutz (and I think he'll cool at some point) time to go to Paul and maybe Felix Perez. All the decent candidates seem to hit lefty. All the more reason to get Mes into the mix IMO.
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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    Lutz is going back to AA as soon as Heisey is ready. Xavier Paul seems to be hitting good enough. Felix Perez is hitting well in AAA, but he is another lefty, so that probably doesn't help his chances in the slightest.

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    Re: LF - at what point do you do something?

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    Lutz is going back to AA as soon as Heisey is ready. Xavier Paul seems to be hitting good enough. Felix Perez is hitting well in AAA, but he is another lefty, so that probably doesn't help his chances in the slightest.
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