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    All in for Mike Stanton??!

    Reds have to at least consider this trade...anybody but Robert Stephansen and or Billy Hamilton included. Move him to LF and go for that ring





    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/miami-m...014400171.html

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    Re: All in for Mike Stanton??!

    Sorry Giancorlo

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    Re: All in for Mike Stanton??!

    Reader beware. Any time you see " Yahoo Contributor Network " in the byline, 9.9 times out of 10 it's just a college kid writing about his favorite team. Think Bleacher Report.

    I know that the kid that writes the Cardinals' articles has already proposed trades for Stanton and Tulowitzki. Pure speculation.

    Sure, Stanton would be a great get, but it's going to take a boatload that will include at least 1 player off the big club, a couple arms and some change. Of those players, expect the Reds' top prospects to be in the mix.

    Stanton is off to a slow start (.227, 3 HR, 33% K rate), so even a moron like Loria will wait until he heats up to maximize his haul.
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    Re: All in for Mike Stanton??!

    Idk..I wouldnt just consider hamilton and someone else for stanton...Id jump all over it in a second and then lock up choo long term

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    Re: All in for Mike Stanton??!

    Quote Originally Posted by DWS1125 View Post
    Reds have to at least consider this trade...anybody but Robert Stephansen and or Billy Hamilton included. Move him to LF and go for that ring





    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/miami-m...014400171.html
    I WOULD trade Leake and Hamilton for Stanton.

    Put stanton in right, bruce to center and choo in left.
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    I WOULD trade Leake and Hamilton for Stanton.

    Put stanton in right, bruce to center and choo in left.
    I'd be willing to include Hamilton in the trade for Stanton, only if they re-signed Choo. But then the problem is, Choo would have to stay in CF.

    What I really think needs to happen if they could acquire Stanton and re-sign Choo is.......

    LF Stanton
    CF Bruce
    RF Choo

    Bruce is younger and would be no worse than Choo in CF. My gut feeling is that he'd be an improvement over him. Maybe not as good as Stubbs.........but still much better than Choo.

    If you resolve the defense issues in the outfield of who plays where.........offensively it's a huge improvement to the lineup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    I WOULD trade Leake and Hamilton for Stanton.

    Put stanton in right, bruce to center and choo in left.
    If you offered Leake and Hamilton for Stanton, their GM would laugh and hang up. Add your 2 best pitching prospects, you might get his attention.

    It was speculated that for the Cardinals to get Stanton, they'd have to offer Taveras, Miller, Rosenthal and a lower prospect. The first 3 would be the top 3 prospects in the Reds organization, although all of those would be up with the big club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofStLouis View Post
    If you offered Leake and Hamilton for Stanton, their GM would laugh and hang up. Add your 2 best pitching prospects, you might get his attention.

    It was speculated that for the Cardinals to get Stanton, they'd have to offer Taveras, Miller, Rosenthal and a lower prospect. The first 3 would be the top 3 prospects in the Reds organization, although all of those would be up with the big club.
    Idk if it'd take that much but it'd definitely take more that what most reds fans think it would take to acquire Stanton. Idk if the marlins would even want Hamilton. Isn't their best prospect a center fielder?

    I proposed:
    Cingrani
    Corcino
    Travieso
    Frazier
    Heisey

    Plus the reds take back nolascos salary too. Most people said that'd be an overpay. I could actually see the fish wanting more.

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    Re: All in for Mike Stanton??!

    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritofStLouis View Post
    If you offered Leake and Hamilton for Stanton, their GM would laugh and hang up. Add your 2 best pitching prospects, you might get his attention.

    It was speculated that for the Cardinals to get Stanton, they'd have to offer Taveras, Miller, Rosenthal and a lower prospect. The first 3 would be the top 3 prospects in the Reds organization, although all of those would be up with the big club.
    I love posts like this...just makes me (not a GM) laugh out loud.

    Look, I wasn't saying that is ALL I would put on the table for Stanton but instead that I would have NO PROBLEM sending both Hamilton and Leake to the Marlins since those are names people have said they DO NOT want to move in a trade.

    I do agree with others in this thread that I would want to see Bruce moved to CF and Choo resigned to make this type of deal happen...if it did...WOW....just WOW...The Reds lineup would put the fear of God in other teams.
    "Sometimes, it's not the sexiest moves that put you over the top," Krivsky said. "It's a series of transactions that help you get there."

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyFan View Post
    I love posts like this...just makes me (not a GM) laugh out loud.

    Look, I wasn't saying that is ALL I would put on the table for Stanton but instead that I would have NO PROBLEM sending both Hamilton and Leake to the Marlins since those are names people have said they DO NOT want to move in a trade.

    I do agree with others in this thread that I would want to see Bruce moved to CF and Choo resigned to make this type of deal happen...if it did...WOW....just WOW...The Reds lineup would put the fear of God in other teams.
    I stand corrected, all apologies.

    I just find it amusing that when dealing with trade threads (not just this one or this team's, all threads and all teams), people don't want to part with top talent to get top talent.

    To get a talent like Stanton, a team is going to have to outbid several other teams. To do that, they'll have to give until it hurts.

    Think Leake, Hamilton, Cingrani, Stephenson and maybe a part. That still won't get it done if another team has higher ranked prospects.

    Stanton isn't even eligible for arbitration until the end of 2014, so the only way Miami will part with their only drawing card is if they get blown out of the water.

    Stephenson is 48 overall and Cingrani 62 in the top 100 prospects, Hamilton 11th. It's not outrageous that Miami would want all 3. Whether those 3 alone would get him, who knows ?

    There was talk that the Cardinals kicked the tires on Tulowitzki, so naturally the St.Louis blogs had trade threads. The vast majority were proposal possibilities that didn't include Miller, Taveras, Martinez, Wacha, etc. Basically, all the team's top prospects.

    Instead they opined that lesser parts and lower prospects might get it done, due to Tulo's insane contract. Again, I found it amusing.
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    Re: All in for Mike Stanton??!

    The Marlins probably wouldn't even want Chapman.

    They have no reason to trade Stanton. He's not making much now and wont for a while. Unless he starts making unwanted waves, the Marlins will sit back until they are overwhelmed.

    Any trade from the Reds will probably include Hamilton, Cingrani and Stephenson. Basically our 1-2-3. Maybe you take back a contract and substitute a lesser prospect for Cingrani or Stephenson. Whatever it is, its going to hurt.

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    Re: All in for Mike Stanton??!

    Okay lets say Reds can only pick one option...which would you pick?

    1. Reds sign Choo to a 5 year deal
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    2. Reds trade for Stanton, lose 4 quality minor leaguers and don't resign Choo

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    Re: All in for Mike Stanton??!

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Fan View Post
    Okay lets say Reds can only pick one option...which would you pick?

    1. Reds sign Choo to a 5 year deal
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    2. Reds trade for Stanton, lose 4 quality minor leaguers and don't resign Choo
    Depends who the prospects are. I say neither. Lets go for Headley spend less/lower impact prospects for a player that could fill the cleanup spot while leaving us with opinions in the outfield.

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    Re: All in for Mike Stanton??!

    Quote Originally Posted by Old school 1983 View Post
    Depends who the prospects are. I say neither. Lets go for Headley spend less/lower impact prospects for a player that could fill the cleanup spot while leaving us with opinions in the outfield.
    I don't see the Padres parting with him unless it was for mega players and Reds won't do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Fan View Post
    I don't see the Padres parting with him unless it was for mega players and Reds won't do that.
    I think it'd be less than for Stanton, and I think there will be more teams willing to outbid the reds for Stanton.


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