...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
dougdirt (05-07-2013),Revering4Blue (05-07-2013)
...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
Cursh14 (05-08-2013)
And I would say Votto's also started to be a leader/mentor for others now (Chapman, for one).
Whatever you do, do your best to not allow the struggles of life to interfere with the pleasures of living.
Meh on "veteran leadership". It has its place but I think it's negligible on a team like the reds.
Although I disagree with the OP, I also disagree with your post here. I think you are being short sited, and you know it, just to prove a point. A full season of games lasts about 486 hours (3 hr/g).
You and I both know that a baseball season is much more than just those 486 hours of game time. Vets can help with a lot, and effect other players a lot, especially the young ones.
It can be things from:
Maturity
Game prep
Handling the road trips
Learning opposing pitchers
Handling slumps
Handling success (I think this has helped Bryce Harper)
Just hearing from what other have experienced and learned and how they learned
Although crappy vets tick me off like they do you, there is SOME value there. I say it with Dusty, he makes me so mad, probably every game, but he has to be doing something right, because the players like him, and he does win (even though many times it seems they when despite him).
A little more open mindedness here may help.
Vottomatic (05-07-2013)
If the team were full of rookies, sure. But if Brandon Phillips, Joey Votto, Choo and others aren't veteran enough with their MVP and All Star games, I just don't know what bringing in more guys simply to "teach" is going to do. If you want to bring in veterans because they are good players, I am all for it. But simply bringing them in because they can influence someone..... I just don't buy it. The Reds have one of the best hitters in the game on their team. The Reds have one of the hardest working and best defenders in the game on their team. If they aren't providing examples for other guys on how hard to work alongside with what the multitude of coaches are also doing, I just don't know what else can be done.
The Reds have two hitting coaches and two pitching coaches. They have Dusty, Spier and Cairo as well. I just don't know what else someone is going to bring to the table in a non-on-the-field-talent level.
Last edited by dougdirt; 05-07-2013 at 05:56 PM.
Chip R (05-08-2013),Revering4Blue (05-07-2013),TOBTTReds (05-08-2013)
What leadership is missing? If Rolen was on the team to provide it how many more games will they have won?
Furthermore who is being a bad teammate at this juncture ?
...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
jhu1321 (05-08-2013),Unassisted (05-07-2013)
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