Just watch it on the darn jumbotron.
Just watch it on the darn jumbotron.
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Always Red (05-10-2013),bigredmechanism (05-16-2013),dougdirt (05-10-2013),REDREAD (05-10-2013),remdog (05-10-2013),Roy Tucker (05-10-2013)
I can excuse a rookie manager for not knowing this. Basically, he didn't know the exact wording of the rule (which included "or any substitute batter") and misinterpreted it.Originally Posted by Chip R
But there's no excuse for an ump to not know the rule book front and cover.
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http://www.baseballprospectus.com/ar...rticleid=20535
Computers are better at some tasks than others. They’re awesome at, oh, adding, for instance. But if you’ve ever had to conduct a lengthy interview and look up excerpts later, you know that computers aren’t much help when it comes to transcription, at least not now—they still need humans’ help with that. Similarly, computers would be of much more help in getting certain kinds of calls correct than others. They’re very good, though far from perfect, at distinguishing between ball and strikes. But interpreting rules, determining whether they’re being adhered to, and enforcing them is an even more difficult matter
A robot ump could be programmed to sound the alarm when a pitcher is substituted, then removed from the game before throwing a pitch. But first, someone would have to tell it that the pitching change had occurred, and that the second substitution wasn’t the result of an injury. And that person would have to enter that information well before the second substitute pitcher threw his first pitch in order for the robot ump to A) recognize the incorrect ruling and B) dispatch someone else to the field to notify the meatbag umps of their mistake in time to prevent it. It’s also hard to see how a robot ump would be able to review a replay or tell whether a runner got his hand on home plate before being tagged. To keep track of the game, a robot ump would be reliant on human scorers, and human scorers make mistakes. Exchanging #robotumps for #robotscorers would only move the weak link to a longer chain.
What's next, no more rabbit ear antennas?
But seriously, the umps are presumably standing right smack dab in front of the screen when they review these things, so whether it's 19", 40", or 140", "no excuse" is right.
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REDREAD (05-10-2013)
19 inch screen should be big enough. But it could be bigger. I bought a 32 inch screen for $189 last fall. So they are not that much. I tend to think Hernandez didn't want to admit he was wrong initially and felt he coud justify it by saying it was inconclusive. He probably has a big enough personality to win over the other umps that were with him.
Last nights was just stupid. Anyone should know a pitcher has to throw to one batter unless he's injured warming up. The Angels would have won that protest if they had lost. Easy case of rules misinterpretation.
Reds Fan Since 1971
My first thought on the 19" monitor was "you've got to be bleeping kidding me".
Billion dollar owners and billion dollar TV contracts and they are reviewing calls on Walmart technologies? Penny-wise, dollar-foolish.
Someone shoot me now.
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Outside of the Pine-tar game, I can't think of any protests that have been upheld. It's got to be a pretty rare event.
And if they did win the protest (and had lost the game obviously), would they just go back and replay the game from the point of the incident? I'd assume so.
The last successful protest was in 1986.
Hmm...Pine tar game was before that I'm pretty sure. Regardless, yep...pretty rare.
The media and fans are the ones making this about the umpires.
If people wouldn't obsess over every 50/50, borderline call that happens, the story wouldn't be about them. People should accept that they aren't perfect and they're going to make mistakes.
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_Sir_Charles_ (05-10-2013)
It's not like he's just some dufus off the street they hired. He's managed in the minors and coached in the majors. It wasn't the first time he's brought a pitcher in to face 1 batter.
If this was something like a team batting out of order or something like that, I could understand an umpire getting confused. But this is elementary.
REDREAD (05-10-2013)
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...s_mlb&c_id=mlb
Suspended and fined.
When's the last time an entire crew was penalized in this way?
I totally oppose this!!!
Those guys should not have been suspended but instead demoted to the minors. Sadly the umpires union will not allow it.
I have been waiting all day to hear the whole story and if these four MLB umps didnt know that rule then thats just scary.
"Boys, I'm one of those umpires that misses 'em every once in a while so if it's close, you'd better hit it." Cal Hubbard
Chip R (05-10-2013),nmculbreth (05-11-2013)
I am absolutely SHOCKED that they suspended Culberth...kudos to MLB for that. Has that ever happened before for missing calls?
If their union doesn't like it then fire them all and start over I say....
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