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    Re: Should the Reds consider dealing Chapman for offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    I think one of the main reasons we're seeing Chapman in the pen this year is because we had so many viable options for the rotation. That's not going to be the case moving forward. Dealing Chapman now...sure, it might help us overall this year (possible, but I doubt it) but you also have to look at the longer picture.
    But he is not going to start as long as Dusty is the manager here.
    Since Bob C seems to view him like The Czar's family viewed Rasputin...Dusty may never leave until he wants to leave or their is a revolt in the FO.
    So you waste someone by throwing them for 1 inning only....only with a lead and hardly ever in anything else....when you could have Broxton or Hoover or even Marshall do the same thing....just not as flashy.

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    Re: Should the Reds consider dealing Chapman for offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    But he is not going to start as long as Dusty is the manager here.
    Since Bob C seems to view him like The Czar's family viewed Rasputin...Dusty may never leave until he wants to leave or their is a revolt in the FO.
    So you waste someone by throwing them for 1 inning only....only with a lead and hardly ever in anything else....when you could have Broxton or Hoover or even Marshall do the same thing....just not as flashy.
    Agree to disagree. He obviously prefers Aroldis in the pen, but if Walt wants him in the rotation, that's where he'll be. It wasn't a cut and dry decision this year. Several options for the rotation, next year...not so much.
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    Re: Should the Reds consider dealing Chapman for offensive help?

    Quote Originally Posted by nate View Post
    That's not really surprising because that's how math works. Higher numbers = a higher percentage. Every team is going to look like this. If you play 10 games, score 10 runs in 1 game and 10 runs in the other 9, you've scored 50% of your runs in 10% of your games.

    Put another way, the Reds have scored 38% of their runs in 15% of their games.

    As a comparison, the NL has scored 43% (the closest percentage I could find to 38%) of it's runs in 20% of it's games.

    The Reds have scored 2 or fewer runs in 38% of their games.

    The NL has scored 2 or fewer runs in 35% of their games.

    The Reds have scored 5 or more runs in 50% of their games.

    The NL has scored 5 or more runs in 39% of their games.

    The Reds have scored 1 run in 24% (8) of their games. Then again, they score 4 runs or higher 56% of the time while the league only does that 51% of the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vottomatic View Post
    NL Central team stats:

    Batting average in MLB:
    10. Cardinals .258
    19. Reds .245
    23. Pirates .241

    HR's in MLB:
    15. Pirates 35
    17. Reds 33
    24. Cardinals 28

    Runs in MLB:
    6. Reds 158
    7. Cardinals 156
    20. Pirates 130

    Pitching e.r.a. in MLB:
    1. Cardinals 3.07
    10. Reds 3.63
    11. Pirates 3.71

    Starting pitching e.r.a. in MLB:
    1. Cardinals 2.29
    2. Detroit 3.04 (for example)
    7. Reds 3.46
    18. Pirates 4.32

    Relief pitching e.r.a. in MLB:
    9. Pirates 2.92
    16. Reds 3.97
    29. Cardinals 5.14
    Ok, now put things in perspective relative to the other expected contenders.

    The Reds are EXPECTED to be contenders this year. Teams like the Marlins, Cubs, Pirates, etc AREN'T.

    So put all those numbers in perspective relative to the other expected contenders (Cardinals, Nats, Giants, etc). Those are the teams the Reds are really competing against.
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