REDREAD (05-08-2013)
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I saw this had 5 pages to it and was really hoping there was something brewing....besides speculation. Then again, we take an article on Choo into 10 pages on trading Bruce, so I guess Im not surprised.
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I would move Hamilton/Stephenson/Corcino/Ondrusek to acquire Stanton, or at least try it.
The last 2 years, look at the prospects we have cashed in:
Yonder
Grandal
Boxberger
Wood
Sappelt
Torreyes
JC Sulbaran
D Joseph
Gregorius
Horst
Volquez and Stubbs as well
You can't trade Cingrani, Arroyo is gone after 2013, cannot afford that
Benihana hasn't posted in the thread yet. Hopefully he didn't have to be rushed to the hospital after he cracked this baby open.
*BaseClogger* (05-08-2013),Benihana (05-08-2013),RadfordVA (05-09-2013),RedEye (05-08-2013)
Dusty's lineup after acquiring Stanton:
CF Choo
SS Cozart
1B Votto
2B Phillips
RF Bruce
3B Frazier
LF Stanton
C Mez
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Why wouldn't the Marlins ask for Jay Bruce? Why would they be stuck on only prospects?
Bruce is signed reasonably for awhile. The Marlins have to want to improve their major league team. Hamilton seems unready. Stephenson is a long way away. Winker is in A ball. Corcino has been struggling at AAA.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think they would want Bruce and Cingrani for Stanton. They would ask for Bruce, Cingrani, and Stephenson for Stanton, but wouldn't get both pitchers IMO.
I could see the Marlins maybe agreeing to Bruce, Cingrani, and Corcino for Stanton and a minor leaguer.
Last edited by Kc61; 05-08-2013 at 09:01 PM.
redsfandan (05-09-2013)
Ronald Torreyes, Dave Sappelt, Travis Wood, Juan Francisco, Brad Boxberger, Yasmani Grandal, Yonder Alonso, Donnie Joseph, JC Sulbaran, Paul Janish, Chris Valaika and Didi left the system via trade.
Cingrani, Chapman, Frazier, Mesaraco, Cozart, Lutz are with the big club.
Billy Hamilton,Henry Rodriguez, Neftali Soto, Daniel Corcino, Tucker Barnhart, David Vidal and Robert Stephenson are still in the system and there are guys in High A and Low A who could become prospects.
FWIW it took Edwin Encanacion till his age 29 season before he put up a really good year. It seems to me the list has both quality and quantity. Particularly when joined with what was a fairly young team (Votto, Bruce, Hannigan, Cueto, Bailey) to begin with.
Last edited by dfs; 05-08-2013 at 10:41 PM. Reason: left off didi
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Last edited by Kc61; 05-08-2013 at 09:37 PM.
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