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    Re: Really?

    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    Last year the Giants record against NL playoff teams was 11-15. How'd that work out? You have to get there, then play well. That's all that matters. I don't care if the Reds go 95-0 against crappy teams and 0-67 against good teams, in the regular season if that gets them to the post season. All I want is them to get there, and they be at least 1 game better than their current playoff round opponent. Anything else is mish mash.
    Agreed. Timing is everything.

    I hope the Reds do enough to get to the postseason, and then hit their hot streak when they arrive there, to win it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hebroncougar View Post
    Last year the Giants record against NL playoff teams was 11-15. How'd that work out? You have to get there, then play well. That's all that matters. I don't care if the Reds go 95-0 against crappy teams and 0-67 against good teams, in the regular season if that gets them to the post season. All I want is them to get there, and they be at least 1 game better than their current playoff round opponent. Anything else is mish mash.
    11-15 is pretty close to .500. If 2 of those losses were wins they would have been right at .500, so that's not far off. The Reds are currently 6-13 against teams over .500. I think they will end the season with a good record against solid competition, but so far they have struggled.

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    The 1975 Reds were 37-29 against teams with a .500 record or better

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    The 1975 Reds were 37-29 against teams with a .500 record or better
    Is there a site which gives the team record v teams above/below 500? On Baseball Reference it breaks done the record by team but I don't see a .500 split. I seem to remember the 2010 Reds clobbering the sub .500 teams while being .500 against the good teams while the Cards did better vs the good teams but not as well vs the sub 500 folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klw View Post
    Is there a site which gives the team record v teams above/below 500? On Baseball Reference it breaks done the record by team but I don't see a .500 split. I seem to remember the 2010 Reds clobbering the sub .500 teams while being .500 against the good teams while the Cards did better vs the good teams but not as well vs the sub 500 folks.
    BR detailed standings has a <.500 and a >.500 indicator

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...tandings.shtml

    2010 Reds vs >.500 teams - 20-33

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    BR detailed standings has a <.500 and a >.500 indicator

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...tandings.shtml

    2010 Reds vs >.500 teams - 20-33
    Thanks I was only looking at the individual team section.

    2010 Reds vs <.500 teams - 71-38
    2010 Cards vs <.500 teams - 49-53

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    The 1975 Reds were 37-29 against teams with a .500 record or better
    I would think that would be considered a very good record against .500+ teams.
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    Honestly, I don't want the Reds to run away with the Central. I'd prefer them to be in it all year, and get hot at the end and win the Central in the last week.

    It seems like teams that have nothing to play for from mid-August on have trouble once the playoffs start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by New York Red View Post
    I would think that would be considered a very good record against .500+ teams.
    I'd consider it pedestrian for a "great" team
    • 2001 M's vs >.500 teams - 48-23
    • 1961 Reds vs. >.500 teams - 53-35


    1970 Reds + 14
    1972 Reds + 13
    1973 Reds + 14

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    If the barometer for "good teams" is that they have a winning record against "good teams", there aren't going to be very many "good teams" since they are going to have losing records against "good teams"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    I'd consider it pedestrian for a "great" team
    • 2001 M's vs >.500 teams - 48-23
    • 1961 Reds vs. >.500 teams - 53-35


    1970 Reds + 14
    1972 Reds + 13
    1973 Reds + 14
    I'm guessing the '01 Mariners were huge exceptions to the norm. That regular season (116 wins) was ridiculous, and then they bombed out in the playoffs. I guess that was a pretty good indication that this stat doesn't guarantee post-season success.
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    Re: Really?

    Code:
    Fri, May 10 vs Milwaukee 7:10 PM		        Reds W 4-3	
    Sat, May 11 vs Milwaukee 4:10 PM		        Reds W 13-7	
    Sun, May 12 vs Milwaukee 1:10 PM		        Reds W 5-1	
    Tue, May 14 @ Miami 7:10 PM	        	        Reds W 6-2	
    Wed, May 15 @ Miami
    Thu, May 16 @ Miami		 	 	
    Fri, May 17	@Philadelphia	 	
    Sat, May 18 @ Philadelphia 4:05 PM	FOX	 	 	
    Sun, May 19 @ Philadelphia 1:35 PM		 	 	
    Mon, May 20 @ NY Mets 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Tue, May 21 @ NY Mets 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Wed, May 22 @ NY Mets 	
    Fri, May 24	vs Cubs 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Sat, May 25 vs Cubs 4:10 PM		 	 	
    Sun, May 26 vs Cubs 1:10 PM		 	 
    Mon, May 27 vs Cleveland 1:10 PM		 	 
    Tue, May 28 vs Cleveland 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Wed, May 29 @ Cleveland 7:05 PM		 	 	
    Thu, May 30 @ Cleveland 7:05 PM

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    Re: Really?

    Boy I wish I could just edit the first post.
    Code:
    Fri, May 10 vs Milwaukee 7:10 PM		        Reds W 4-3	
    Sat, May 11 vs Milwaukee 4:10 PM		        Reds W 13-7	
    Sun, May 12 vs Milwaukee 1:10 PM		        Reds W 5-1	
    Tue, May 14 @ Miami 7:10 PM	        	        Reds W 6-2	
    Wed, May 15 @ Miami                                     Reds W 4-0
    Thu, May 16 @ Miami		 	 	
    Fri, May 17	@Philadelphia	 	
    Sat, May 18 @ Philadelphia 4:05 PM	FOX	 	 	
    Sun, May 19 @ Philadelphia 1:35 PM		 	 	
    Mon, May 20 @ NY Mets 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Tue, May 21 @ NY Mets 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Wed, May 22 @ NY Mets 	
    Fri, May 24	vs Cubs 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Sat, May 25 vs Cubs 4:10 PM		 	 	
    Sun, May 26 vs Cubs 1:10 PM		 	 
    Mon, May 27 vs Cleveland 1:10 PM		 	 
    Tue, May 28 vs Cleveland 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Wed, May 29 @ Cleveland 7:05 PM		 	 	
    Thu, May 30 @ Cleveland 7:05 PM

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    Re: Really?

    6-0 now for this stretch.

    Code:
    Fri, May 10 vs Milwaukee 7:10 PM		        Reds W 4-3	
    Sat, May 11 vs Milwaukee 4:10 PM		        Reds W 13-7	
    Sun, May 12 vs Milwaukee 1:10 PM		        Reds W 5-1	
    Tue, May 14 @ Miami 7:10 PM	        	        Reds W 6-2	
    Wed, May 15 @ Miami                                     Reds W 4-0
    Thu, May 16 @ Miami		 	 	        Reds W 5-3
    Fri, May 17 @ Philadelphia	 	
    Sat, May 18 @ Philadelphia 4:05 PM	 	 	
    Sun, May 19 @ Philadelphia 1:35 PM		 	 	
    Mon, May 20 @ NY Mets 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Tue, May 21 @ NY Mets 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Wed, May 22 @ NY Mets 	
    Fri, May 24 vs Cubs 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Sat, May 25 vs Cubs 4:10 PM		 	 	
    Sun, May 26 vs Cubs 1:10 PM		 	 
    Mon, May 27 vs Cleveland 1:10 PM		 	 
    Tue, May 28 vs Cleveland 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Wed, May 29 @ Cleveland 7:05 PM		 	 	
    Thu, May 30 @ Cleveland 7:05 PM

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    Re: Really?

    Reds improve to 7 and 1.

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    Fri, May 10 vs Milwaukee 7:10 PM		        Reds W 4-3	
    Sat, May 11 vs Milwaukee 4:10 PM		        Reds W 13-7	
    Sun, May 12 vs Milwaukee 1:10 PM		        Reds W 5-1	
    Tue, May 14 @ Miami 7:10 PM	        	        Reds W 6-2	
    Wed, May 15 @ Miami                                     Reds W 4-0
    Thu, May 16 @ Miami		 	 	        Reds W 5-3
    Fri, May 17 @ Philadelphia	 	                 Loss 3-5
    Sat, May 18 @ Philadelphia 4:05 PM	 	        Reds W 10-0
    Sun, May 19 @ Philadelphia 1:35 PM		 	 	
    Mon, May 20 @ NY Mets 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Tue, May 21 @ NY Mets 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Wed, May 22 @ NY Mets 	
    Fri, May 24 vs Cubs 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Sat, May 25 vs Cubs 4:10 PM		 	 	
    Sun, May 26 vs Cubs 1:10 PM		 	 
    Mon, May 27 vs Cleveland 1:10 PM		 	 
    Tue, May 28 vs Cleveland 7:10 PM		 	 	
    Wed, May 29 @ Cleveland 7:05 PM		 	 	
    Thu, May 30 @ Cleveland 7:05 PM


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