Turn Off Ads?
Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 16 to 27 of 27

Thread: The farm isn't barren

  1. #16
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    4,694

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    Off the top of my head, the only two players I might feature more prominently are Waldrop and Tim Crabbe.

    I'm not certain that I'd rate Waldrop over Yorman, but I'm not certain that I wouldn't, either.

    Crabbe has always been a good-stuff guy lacking consistency. This year, he's been much more consistent. Enough to put himself in the photo, anyway, in my opinion.

  2. Turn Off Ads?
  3. #17
    Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Posts
    5,997

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    Quote Originally Posted by mace View Post
    Off the top of my head, the only two players I might feature more prominently are Waldrop and Tim Crabbe.

    I'm not certain that I'd rate Waldrop over Yorman, but I'm not certain that I wouldn't, either.

    Crabbe has always been a good-stuff guy lacking consistency. This year, he's been much more consistent. Enough to put himself in the photo, anyway, in my opinion.
    Yorman has dropped back down to earth and is struggling to hit .250 or walk.
    I know he is young.....so there is that.

  4. #18
    All work and no play..... Vottomatic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2009
    Location
    Lebanon
    Posts
    7,067

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    Yeah. I'm disappointed with the current state of the Reds farm system.
    "I can't take this homerism anymore." - 10xWSChamps, August 11, 2010. A Cardinals fan having a problem with all the homerism on Redszone. Classic.

    "Man do I miss the days where were didn't need a calculator and an encyclopedia of baseball metrics to enjoy a baseball game ... - MikeS21" - 8/2/12 game thread

  5. #19
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2000
    Location
    Richmond, Indiana
    Posts
    1,705

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    It's barren.

  6. Likes:

    Superdude (05-21-2013)

  7. #20
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Posts
    9,858

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    I'd say there are four prospects that matter and 2 who are on the cusp:

    Hamilton, Winker, Stephenson and Cingrani matter. They each carry significant trade value and project to be impact players at the big league level.

    Corcino and Travieso are on the cusp- they could go either way.

    At this point, no one else would remotely get consideration to be a Top 250 prospect. Hence no one else would be likely to make the average team's Top 10 prospects list. Our farm system is below average. However given the current state of the big club, that's OK. And hopefully it gets an infusion of talent with next month's draft.
    Go BLUE!!!

  8. Likes:

    REDREAD (05-21-2013)

  9. #21
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    4,537

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    When I look at the farm, I look for development and age levels. What I see is a lot more hopeful than the "it's barren" view. We've got some important players putting up some very good Mays after bad starts--Waldrop, HRod, LaMarre, and Lohman just for starters.

  10. #22
    Flash the leather! _Sir_Charles_'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Houston, Texas
    Posts
    8,345

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    Quote Originally Posted by Benihana View Post
    I'd say there are four prospects that matter and 2 who are on the cusp:

    Hamilton, Winker, Stephenson and Cingrani matter. They each carry significant trade value and project to be impact players at the big league level.

    Corcino and Travieso are on the cusp- they could go either way.

    At this point, no one else would remotely get consideration to be a Top 250 prospect. Hence no one else would be likely to make the average team's Top 10 prospects list. Our farm system is below average. However given the current state of the big club, that's OK. And hopefully it gets an infusion of talent with next month's draft.
    Exactly. Seeing a farm system somewhat depleted is NOT a big deal. Where would a top prospect even PLAY on the MLB club right now? We've got a window of a couple of years to rebuild the farm system before we'll really "need" the farm system.
    2014 predictions:
    99-63 WS champs (Cards take 2nd WC, Mil 3rd, Pit 4th, Chi 5th)
    Bruce/Votto neck and neck MVP race (neither takes it)
    Bailey CYA winner
    Hamilton ROY & GG

  11. #23
    ZCTRMTP!!!!!
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Posts
    10,797

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Exactly. Seeing a farm system somewhat depleted is NOT a big deal. Where would a top prospect even PLAY on the MLB club right now? We've got a window of a couple of years to rebuild the farm system before we'll really "need" the farm system.
    Left field. Shortstop. Third base. And who can't use more pitching? I would even add catcher to that list.
    Last edited by texasdave; 05-21-2013 at 06:53 PM.
    Zero chance the Reds miss the playoffs!

  12. #24
    Member
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    1,066

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    Also consider the Reds are likely to get a second first round pick this year with the departure of Choo, and then can likely only hold on to one of Bailey/Latos, and that means another bonus first rounder. So the system is looking at four first rounders in the next two years, and this year's draft. I would say there is plenty of reason to think the system will be stocked back up after having to trade assets (which is half the reason you have a farm system in the first place) to get players such as Marshall/Latos/Choo

  13. Likes:

    Benihana (05-22-2013)

  14. #25
    Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2000
    Location
    Richmond, Indiana
    Posts
    1,705

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    You can go thru and ID some prospects, but relative to other teams....it's barren.

  15. #26
    Member mdccclxix's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Crown
    Posts
    3,740

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    I think you have to be careful about dismissing a few of the well regarded players that had bad starts. I think the top 25 is still pretty strong when you allow for the whole season to play out. It will be interesting to hear from the development guys if they get interviewed this year.

  16. #27
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    4,537

    Re: The farm isn't barren

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    I think you have to be careful about dismissing a few of the well regarded players that had bad starts. I think the top 25 is still pretty strong when you allow for the whole season to play out. It will be interesting to hear from the development guys if they get interviewed this year.
    Agree. I take it that if guys are having difficulty at the beginning of the year it probably means we've gotten the levels right. Have to watch how the year develops and with an eye toward the ages. Seeing who can adjust to and handle the particular level--and at what age--is what minor league baseball is all about.


Turn Off Ads?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Board Moderators may, at their discretion and judgment, delete and/or edit any messages that violate any of the following guidelines: 1. Explicit references to alleged illegal or unlawful acts. 2. Graphic sexual descriptions. 3. Racial or ethnic slurs. 4. Use of edgy language (including masked profanity). 5. Direct personal attacks, flames, fights, trolling, baiting, name-calling, general nuisance, excessive player criticism or anything along those lines. 6. Posting spam. 7. Each person may have only one user account. It is fine to be critical here - that's what this board is for. But let's not beat a subject or a player to death, please.

Thank you, and most importantly, enjoy yourselves!


RedsZone.com is a privately owned website and is not affiliated with the Cincinnati Reds or Major League Baseball


Contact us: Boss | GIK | BCubb2003 | dabvu2498 | Gallen5862 | LexRedsFan | Plus Plus | RedlegJake | redsfan1995 | The Operator | Tommyjohn25