New York Red (05-16-2013)
It's really not that complicated to see why some of the baseball card stats are only telling part of the story. You can say that you just aren't interested in that story, but plugging your ears and shouting louder generally doesn't help.
Last edited by RedEye; 05-16-2013 at 03:43 PM.
"Iíll kind of have a foot on the back of my own butt. Thatís just how I do things.Ē -- Bryan Price, 10/22/2013
For the record, I don't think BP is an MVP candidate either, but lets don't down play what he means to this team for the sake of trying to prove a point. He may be the most valuable player on this team, just not the best.
Its not necessarily his stats. Although leading the league in RBIs should stand for something to even the most sabermetrically-inclined baseball fan. Of course the stat is dependent on your teammates getting on base and putting you in the position to succeed. But runners on base hardly ever score if the batter doesn't execute. Brandon executes. Obviously I watch most of the Reds games like the rest of you, and time and time again this season, Brandon has come through with big hits in the clutch and run saving defense. Moreso than any player on this team so far, if you ask me.
Clearly BP's numbers won't look like those of a Choo or a Votto, especially as the season gets older. But forget the numbers for one second and consider the actual games. He's made more of an impact than any other position player on this team this season, except for maybe Choo. That said, he could go cold for a month and Votto finds his power again, and this entire argument becomes moot.
Perhaps there are other players on other teams (of whom I don't watch regularly) that play a similar game, and also deserve adulation. Maybe BP will cool off and end up having a standard BP season (which is excellent). But at this point in the season, he should be in the conversation. My opinion, of course. I could be wrong and you are free to disagree with it.
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I agree that you need guys to drive in runs, and Phillips has done that very well so far. I'm not hating on Phillips performance so far at all. But if Votto were injured, and we still had Stubbs at the top of the order, we wouldn't be having this conversation at all. That's the entire point.
Having looked at some of the Cardinal stats I could see some support going to Molina and Beltran.
"I talked to an advance scout that told me if Joey Votto and Albert Pujols were on the same team he'd advise his team to do the unthinkable...pitch around Votto to get to Pujols." - Buster Olney, ESPN
"Would you value any monetary system that valued a penny the same as it valued a nickle, dime or even a quarter? I would think not, then why would lean so much on batting average as the measure of a players worth on offense?"
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