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    Re: Joey Votto or Miguel Cabrera?

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeThierry View Post
    No they weren't. Joe Posnanski wrote an interesting article the other day about Albert Pujols essentially not mattering anymore. In the article, he brought up mind boggling numbers that put him on par with Ted Williams, Stan Musial, Babe Ruth, and Lou Gehrig the first ten years of his career. Miggy hasn't even come close to matching or being compared to any of those guys. I think people forget how dominant Pujols was early in his career because he was overshadowed by Bonds. We're talking about a player who never struck out more than 100 times in a season and had 8 years of +1.000 OPS seasons four of which where he OPS'd over 1.100. What also truly separated Miggy and Pujols in their prime is that Pujols had elite level defense at first. In fact, I would argue that Pujols will probably go down as a top 5 defender at 1B. Because of this factor, Pujols consistently put up 8 WAR seasons while Miggy has yet to have a season over 6.9 WAR according to fangraphs.
    Pujols in St. Louis was the kind of player everyone respected. Home grown talent who had taken a team friendly deal to stay with the Cards for the first 10 years of his career. He wasn't a guy who had an ego bigger than the game itself and was a strong figure in the community. When Albert left for $ and also signed a 10 year personal services contract he pretty much gave up all the good will he had built in St. Louis as well as within baseball, and was looked at as a mercenary.

    Last season Albert still put up an OPS+ of 140, but did have his worst season on record. The scary thing for the LAA has to be that not only is his game poor this season but he looks old. He looks like he can't run this season. In Spring Training they had a pinch runner for him. Couple that with him starting next season to earn $20M+ over the next 8 seasons. Albert doesn't matter anymore because he isn't as good as he once was, and fans don't like him as much either.

    As far as the original question goes, I would probably take Miggy, esp. if we're talking about Miggy playing in a ballpark like Great American Ballpark. I marvel at what Miggy is able to do in that canyon of a ballpark he plays in on a daily basis.
    Miggy still has to play defense. As a 1b its a little more tolerable than elsewhere, but the guy is a liability on defense.


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