Raisor (06-21-2013),_Sir_Charles_ (06-21-2013)
No PED accusations allowed as a rule? Come on. You may not like it, but PEDS are a part of the game and conversation these days. None us wish it was the case, but it is in the modern era. Just like greenies before it. Quit being the self-appointed PED-accusation-cop and ignore the posts. I think you cause a bigger disruption/stink with your messages and cop-like attitude, RedEye.
jimbo (06-21-2013),Norm Chortleton (06-24-2013),Red in Chicago (06-21-2013),remdog (06-24-2013),Tom Servo (06-21-2013)
Molina is currently 30-an age that is within a hitter's "prime years" window.
He's improved offensively every year since 2007 with the exception of 2010 which was a down year for a period spanning his age 25 to 31 seasons (his BD is in July so im counting this as his age 31 season).
To have an OP suggest Molina is a juicer because of a nonexistent "historically unusual spike" in Molina's performance and to have it be a central theme of a lengthy thread especially in the recent context of Cardinal threads being closed and Cards talk being a contentious issue is IMHO a clear sign of declining quality of the ORG.Code:year wOBA 2007 0.313 2008 0.326 2009 0.336 2010 0.300 2011 0.353 2012 0.375 2013 0.400
The ORG really ought to be better than that. Anyway, just my 2 cents.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
redsfandan (06-21-2013),_Sir_Charles_ (06-21-2013)
To be honest, the original post in that thread sure seemed a lot like trolling to me. I don't know if that was his intention but it looks like it sure could be trolling. We had a similar discussion a couple of weeks ago where people were complaining about all the Cardinals fans on here and the end result was that those threads wound up being closed.
That was actually in the stated rules of a board I moderated for about ten years. When I left I posted my reasons in the moderators' forum, thinking that would be private enough. They still deleted my post. fwiw, they kept me on the mods list until just a month or so ago. I visited the site and noticed I still had access to the private stuff, pm'd the admin, and had him delete me from the list.
but I digress. I am sorry to see Mike go.
It is on the whole probable that we continually dream, but that consciousness makes such a noise that we do not hear it. Carl Jung.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
No it doesn't.
One position accuses a player of cheating without any justification using a premise that isnt actually accurate. The other position points it out. That's the level of discourse envisioned by the ORG's mission statement?
Its a thread calling a player a cheater with nothing more than supposition that was largely random except that it also happens to serve to tweak members of a rival fan base. That's actually in many ways the antithesis of what the ORG should be about IMHO.
That others would call shenanigans doesn't legitimize the shenanigans.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
RedEye (06-22-2013)
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