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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Was just reading on http://www.motownsports.com/forums/m...ft-thread.html and a lot of draft "experts" are predicting Anderson will not last longer than the 20th pick. Sounds like either the Cardinals will draft him at 19 or the Tigers at 20. Both teams have been scouting him heavily. Apparently before this year he was mostly a basketball player and once he started focusing on baseball his numbers exploded. Sounds like an extremely athletic kid that can field and hit but with an average throwing arm. This kid would be perfect for the Reds in my opinion, may make the sting of trading Didi a little easier to deal with.
    Agreed. There are some similarities to Billy Hamilton. Would be OK with him at 27, ecstatic with him at 38. Probably a future 2B.

    Keith Law's latest mock has us taking Denney at 27, says he's heard we are heavy in on him - which I like. He has Wilson, Ervin and Kaminsky still on the board when we pick, with McKinney, Clarkin, Anderson and others all gone.
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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    I am really pumped for the draft. Taking the wife to some food truck thing after work, but I will definitely be DVR'ing the draft. Going to be interesting.

    ::Realizes I am a total dork::

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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Keith Law has the Reds taking high school catcher Jon Denney with the 27th pick. He also claims he's hearing Wil Crowe, but that may be more likely for the 38th pick.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story...raft-mlb-draft

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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    http://dcprosportsreport.com/MLBMocks.htm

    Tons of mock drafts all on one website for those who like to peruse such things.
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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Draft info from cincinnatireds.com.

    http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/news/...s_cin&c_id=cin
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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by fearofpopvol1 View Post
    Keith Law has the Reds taking high school catcher Jon Denney with the 27th pick. He also claims he's hearing Wil Crowe, but that may be more likely for the 38th pick.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/story...raft-mlb-draft
    I know we are not deep at catcher in the minors but if the Reds draft Denney it tells me all we need to know about how the Reds front office views Devin Mesoraco.

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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I know we are not deep at catcher in the minors but if the Reds draft Denney it tells me all we need to know about how the Reds front office views Devin Mesoraco.
    And your comment tells me that you have no idea how player development works.

    Denney, at best, is 4+ years away from the Majors. Mesoraco, assuming he stays in the Major Leagues from now until free agency, is a free agent in 4 more seasons. This isn't the NFL. You don't draft based on what you think about any single player on your Major League roster.

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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    And your comment tells me that you have no idea how player development works.

    Denney, at best, is 4+ years away from the Majors. Mesoraco, assuming he stays in the Major Leagues from now until free agency, is a free agent in 4 more seasons. This isn't the NFL. You don't draft based on what you think about any single player on your Major League roster.
    I am aware of that. Denney is a high schooler so best case scenario is 4 years away from being in Cinci. BUT, if Mesoraco were living up to his potential do you not think the Reds would be trying to extend his contract instead of looking ahead to a future without him? I understand baseball teams go BPA almost all the time, but I also think the major league roster can effect decision making. For example if a team is drafting with the first overall pick and there are two players that are considered 1 and 2 and they are already loaded at the position 1 plays and are weak at the position 2 plays you do not think they will draft 2 even though 1 is considered a slightly better player?

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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    For example if a team is drafting with the first overall pick and there are two players that are considered 1 and 2 and they are already loaded at the position 1 plays and are weak at the position 2 plays you do not think they will draft 2 even though 1 is considered a slightly better player?
    No, you take the best player. Most elite hitting catchers don't make it to the majors as catchers.
    "Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."

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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    No, you take the best player. Most elite hitting catchers don't make it to the majors as catchers.
    I know baseball history agrees with you but I just do not think the Cardinals or Giants would draft a catcher in the first round right now. With outfielders and middle infielders I get it because you can shift those players around. I understand you can move catchers to other positions if they are good enough at hitting like first base (not in the Reds case though because of Joey). If Mesoraco were playing to his potential and the Reds were looking to extend him for let's say 3 years past his current contract this kid would not only be blocked by him but Joey as well.

    I could be wrong, and probably am, but I think this is an early clue the Reds FO is losing faith in Mez.

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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I know baseball history agrees with you but I just do not think the Cardinals or Giants would draft a catcher in the first round right now. With outfielders and middle infielders I get it because you can shift those players around. I understand you can move catchers to other positions if they are good enough at hitting like first base (not in the Reds case though because of Joey). If Mesoraco were playing to his potential and the Reds were looking to extend him for let's say 3 years past his current contract this kid would not only be blocked by him but Joey as well.

    I could be wrong, and probably am, but I think this is an early clue the Reds FO is losing faith in Mez.
    They haven't even drafted him yet, it's just a rumor.

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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    And your comment tells me that you have no idea how player development works.
    Easy Doug...

    Anyway, the Reds drafted Yonder Alonso when they were pretty sure Votto was the guy for the future. You draft best player available until you really need to fill roster spots in the low levels. Your major league team has about 0.1% to do with your draft, and that might be too high.

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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by mdccclxix View Post
    They haven't even drafted him yet, it's just a rumor.
    I know, that is why I said "If the Reds draft him..."

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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I know baseball history agrees with you but I just do not think the Cardinals or Giants would draft a catcher in the first round right now. With outfielders and middle infielders I get it because you can shift those players around. I understand you can move catchers to other positions if they are good enough at hitting like first base (not in the Reds case though because of Joey). If Mesoraco were playing to his potential and the Reds were looking to extend him for let's say 3 years past his current contract this kid would not only be blocked by him but Joey as well.

    I could be wrong, and probably am, but I think this is an early clue the Reds FO is losing faith in Mez.
    You are wrong.

    If you don't have a guy extended, then you don't plan on it happening.

    and of course none of this mentions that Ryan Hanigan is a free agent after next season.

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    Re: 2013 MLB Draft pick discussion thread

    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    You are wrong.
    Look Doug, I know you are well versed in the inner-workings of minor league baseball and player development, but you cannot say with 100% certainty that I am wrong, even though I most likely am.

    I respect your opinions and really enjoy reading what you have to say but I can tell you from experience that talking to people like this is a bad idea. Even if you are 100% correct you still come off in a bad way, and God forbid if you are proven wrong yourself.

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