The difference here is that Alonso was a polished college hitter who could move fast, whereas any HS catcher will always be at least 4-5 years from the majors.
To answer Doug's earlier point, I do think Votto and his 10 year deal do have something to do with how the Reds draft right now. If a guy is projected solely as a 1B, especially a polished college 1B, I doubt the Reds consider him with their first couple picks. Almost no matter what.
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"Since I've been with the Reds in 1989, we've never had a farm system this loaded," Bowden said. "If we were the New York Yankees and had unlimited dollars, we could have traded for Colon, (Jeff) Weaver, Rolen, (Cliff) Floyd, (Kenny) Rogers and Finley and gotten them all -- and still held onto our top five prospects. That's an amazing statement."
Is Choo a good comp for Ervin? Or a poor man's Matt Kemp?
Or is he the OF version of Rickie Weeks?
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Tim Anderson could be called half-Billy Hamilton, half-Brandon Phillips.
Billy McKinney could be this year's Jesse Winker.
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Edd Roush (06-03-2013)
Actually redszoners were pretty upset about drafting Alonso in 2008. Most people wanted Gordon Beckham (to fill the need at SS in the reds system).
But the Reds FO knew Votto was the answer. Heck, a lot of guys knew he was the answer when he was in Dayton. The second Alonso was drafted, he was the trade bait that he eventually became. You have no problem drafted a sure thing that is blocked because he becomes a wild card for you.
The Brewers drafted Matt LaPorta when they had Prince. Everyone knew they drafted him only to trade him. His floor was already so high, they knew they could trade him quickly (of course he ended up not panning out!) But still flipped him for CC. We flipped Alonso (and others) for Latos.
You draft the best player available because he can be traded for whatever you need if he is successful. Teams do this all the time. If there was a no-brainer 1B sitting out there for us, pretty sure we'd take him.
Jonathan Gray Tests Positive For Banned Stimulant
By Steve Adams [June 3 at 5:18pm CST]
ESPN's Keith Law reports that Oklahoma right-hander Jonathan Gray, projected to be one of the Top 5 picks in Thursday's MLB draft, has tested positive for Adderall -- a stimulant which is banned by the Joint Drug Agreement between MLB and the players' union. According to Law, the test will not result in a suspension, and it's not likely to cause him to slip in the draft.
In fact, in a second piece (this one for ESPN Insiders only), Law outlines a scenario in which this test could actually make Gray more appealing to the Astros with the first overall pick. Law writes that Gray's bonus demands will be lower due to the poor result. One source told Law he expects Gray to sign for a "huge" discount. In that scenario, the Astros could likely sign Gray below slot with the first pick and allocate some of the additional funds to later players without risk of exceeding their bonus pool.
Adderall is typically prescribed as a treatment for ADHD, but Gray did not have a prescription for the drug. In Law's first piece, he notes that more than 110 active players were granted exemptions to use the drug in 2012. Carlos Ruiz's 25-game suspension to open the season was the result of using Adderall without a prescription, he adds. Most teams that Law has spoken to thus far aren't overly troubled by Gray's test, though it does bring his judgment into question.
I frown upon the Reds raking that OK prep catcher Denney.
Any team that takes him his just going to move him to a corner OF position. I would just take a polished college bat that should stay at his position while moving just as quick like 3B Eric Jagielo, Notre Dame,