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    The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    There's a spirited discussion going on at another place I post about a recent deadspin.com item. (I won't link to it, since the title is NSFW. It begins with "Let's Listen To Joey Votto Scream...") The video and accompanying text showcases Joey Votto's new habit of screaming a "torrent of" a specific obscenity after at-bats that don't end in him reaching base.

    I contend that it's a bad thing. It makes him look self-centered and childish, IMO. It could also drive families with kids away from the ballpark. Imagine having to explain to the 5 year-old you brought to the game what Joey just screamed 3x at the top of his lungs on the way back to the dugout!

    Most posters at the other place are over the moon about it. They consider it a sign of his concern for his performance and commitment to improve.
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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    It could also drive families with kids away from the ballpark.
    And might not either.


    When someone drops $219 for a row K seat in an Infield Box I doubt they'll be packing up their gear when Joey Votto swears.

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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    Does not bother me in the least. I'd prefer he not do it. But if it is a part of that complex equation that makes him OPS/BA/OBP that high, then have it.

    Most of know Tiger Woods does the same. I doubt his swing coach or anyone that understands golf tells him to stop. Same with Joey and the REDS staff. Just keep hitting and fielding!

    I'd venture to guess there are more than a few parents out there that do the same in front of their kids (while not playing a sport). That is what really bugs me.
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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    I contend that it's a bad thing. It makes him look self-centered and childish, IMO. It could also drive families with kids away from the ballpark. Imagine having to explain to the 5 year-old you brought to the game what Joey just screamed 3x at the top of his lungs on the way back to the dugout!.
    It's a pretty minor issue either way. I mean, I agree that it shows how intensely he's focusing on his at-bats.

    On the other hand, I also think that it does look bad. Nothing is pure and innocent in this world, and definitely nothing in professional sports is. However, baseball is the most innocent professional sport we have. I think these kind of outbursts degrade the game.

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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    Is it ideal for a kid to hear his hero drop F bombs at the top of his lungs when things go wrong? No. Can you keep your kid sheltered from bad language and other things his whole life? Again, no.

    Use it as a learning experience for your kids. Treat it as a positive. How can you teach your kids right from wrong if you keep them in a cocoon and protect them to the point that they are never exposed to negative things?

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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unassisted View Post
    I contend that it's a bad thing. It makes him look self-centered and childish, IMO. It could also drive families with kids away from the ballpark. Imagine having to explain to the 5 year-old you brought to the game what Joey just screamed 3x at the top of his lungs on the way back to the dugout!
    I don't grasp the huge deal of explaining to your child that it's foul language and socially unacceptable in most contexts. Most importantly it's unbecoming.
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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    I just let loose 15 f bombs in support. I wish he'd do it every time he swings the bat.
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    I already have to shelter my son from his grandmother or grandfather dropping an inappropriate word (though never the F-word), he seems to recover fairly well, I'm not too worried about Joey cursing after a strikeout.

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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    Doesn't bother me at all. The guy is frustrated he had a bad atbat. Not a big deal, IMO.
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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    If it were the occasional F-bomb I would be more understanding but the tirade he unleashed on Memorial Day was a little much. I'm not a fan of it but it isn't a huge deal to me.

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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    Not worried about the children stuff, honestly kids curse like sailors without any added provocation already.

    I laughed it off in the Sun Deck thread, but I did cringe a little bit before I watched the Deadspin video. Which is not to say I have a problem with cursing, but it was just kind of a strange spot for an outburst.
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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    Something something Chris Carpenter and his kid something something
    "But I do know Joey's sister indirectly (or foster sister) and I have heard stories of Joey being into shopping, designer wear, fancy coffees, and pedicures."

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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    I can't believe this is an issue. It's a complete non-concern for me. Joey plays the game the way he plays the game - and he does it better than just about anyone else on the planet. As for whether a little kid may hear that word, good grief. It happens all the time.

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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    A simple solution would be to quit putting field mics in place and allowing cameras to follow every single thing these guys do. There's a reason they don't allow live field mics to be heard during NFL and NBA broadcasts.

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    Re: The Votto f-bombs: Good or bad?

    I'd be the doing the same thing if I played baseball.
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